Surviving R. Kelly: Lisa VanAllen Speaks Out (Episode 2) | Lifetime

  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2019
  • Survivor Lisa VanAllen shares her story in this clip from Episode 2. #Lifetime
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  • J ‘Mar
    J ‘Mar 23 часа назад

    This why R.Kelly wanted girls to pee in the bucket
    In European -- especially Italian -- folk magic, as well as in hoodoo, urine is used in women's coffee and tea love spells, as a quick substitute for menstrual blood, when the intention is to tie or bind a lover. This is particularly common among girls to young or women too old to have menstrual periods, and among pregnant women and those who for any other reason don;t menstruate. Men also can put urine in a drink to tie a woman, although this is not mentioned so commonly.
    In hoodoo, and in polite Southern speech generally, urine is often called "chamber lye" or "water." No matter what you call it, one of the oldest root work traditions is for a male gambler to have a female lover urinate on his mojo bag or lucky hand while he is at play. If the gambler and his partner can retire to an alley to perform the act while the game is in progress, so much the better. This is called "feeding the mojo," and the use of the word "feed" is, of course an indicative link to African magico-religious thought, from whence this custom derives. (Lodestones are also "fed" in hoodoo -- with magnetic sand.) Women players rarely ask a man to urinate on their mojo hands, so, for whatever reason, it is female urine that is considered lucky in this case.
    Chamber lye can be a vulnerable spot in a man or woman's periphery. An enemy who gets your "water" can cause grave damage to you by stopping it up in a bottle with red pepper and Graveyard Dirt. The result will be urinary tract problems, ranging from cystitis and nephritis to prostatitis and kidney stones. The only way to take off such a condition is to find the bottle and destroy it, letting the urine run out into a fire.
    Conversely, chamber lye has its strengths -- a man can use his own urination to cure a case of impotence that was put on him through magic. Peeing on a knife blade and letting the pee run on the ground is one of many methods for accomplishing this. Another is to urinate into a red ants nest. Women who have had their natures hoodooed can pee into a running river as they call on the river to take off the jinx.
    I should also add a quick comment on the term "chamber lye" for readers who are not native English speakers:
    Chamber: A chamber means a room, so in the old days a bedroom was called a bed chamber. With no indoor plumbing, you went outdoors to pee in an outhouse, but the first pee of the morning, before dressing or washing up, most folks didn't want to go out, so they peed in a covered container called a chamber pot, which was carried out later.
    Lye: This is an old Anglo Saxon word meaning any strong alkaline liquid. Most of the time nowadays you'll hear the word lye in reference to making soap at home, where one good source of lye is potash -- literally pot ashes. You make potash or pot ash lye by concentrating water that has run through the ashes collected from the fire under your cooking pots. Since there is no one chemical formula for lye; in common parlance it can be any really strong alkaline solution. So a polite word for urine used to be "chamber lye" -- an alkaline solution obtained in the bed chamber.
    So... "chamber pot" plus "pot ash lye" equals "chamber pot lye" -- which is shortened to "chamber lye"!

  • Black Mamba
    Black Mamba День назад

    Mayweather will be next, this metoo campaign will take even more big names down yet. If I was Floyd I'd be worried

  • 01987 N?a
    01987 N?a День назад

    R.kelly did nothing wrong he is a BAMF

  • Cortez Brown
    Cortez Brown День назад

    I can't stand a woman who can't tell a story without crying that make me not believe you cuz I know women cry to make you feel sorry or believe there story

  • Ricky Buckner
    Ricky Buckner День назад

    If this is true he deserves the hands!

  • nyl wan
    nyl wan День назад

    So the only nonsonsensual is the sextape... why not leave r. Kelly if they already fell so uncomfortable in his side??

  • Bobby B
    Bobby B День назад

    Drip Drip Drip.

  • Marcus Knight
    Marcus Knight День назад

    Definitely could’ve walked away! But yes it is wrong to sleep with under age girls but 2 wrongs don’t make a right they knew exactly what they was doing!! When I was 15 I was asked to try a hallucinate drug... but I said no because I knew right from wrong and I didn’t have a gun forced to my head!!! I guess my question is why make a whole documentary on this just go to your local high school and the girls talk to older man all the time these things go on every day un noticed let’s be real

  • Warjormodi
    Warjormodi 2 дня назад

    Innocent until proven guilty

  • zimvader25
    zimvader25 2 дня назад

    Honest question for all the people calling these 14-17 yr olds "children", here: if these same "children" were talking about getting gender reassignment, what would be the tone of your comments here? Would you still maintain that they dont know any better and can't/shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions or would your tune change?

  • Cornelia Marin
    Cornelia Marin 2 дня назад

    Why is always taking so long for these women to speak up? Why these women fall for those sick games?

  • Raw2929 Will
    Raw2929 Will 2 дня назад

    Nothing going one for u that y u do this interview Desperate for money

  • Zionslayer1
    Zionslayer1 2 дня назад

    You say no, but those thighs are saying YES!!!

    • Zionslayer1
      Zionslayer1 2 дня назад

      +Carina Kriessman , should I tell you what your pouty lips are telling me?

    • Carina Kriessman
      Carina Kriessman 2 дня назад

      I think you need to be checked out if body parts are speaking to you

  • Delan Roof
    Delan Roof 2 дня назад +2

    The title is surviving R kelly. He is being paid just for his stage name to be used. Open your eyes guys this is marketing

  • Trisha Paytas Memes
    Trisha Paytas Memes 2 дня назад +1

    Im only here from jesy Nelson. Anyone else?

    SOUTH SIDE DEE 2 дня назад +1

    Y’all need to quit hatin

    • Carina Kriessman
      Carina Kriessman 2 дня назад

      Hating? Yeah, we hate him because he has a history of going after underage girls and predatory behavior.

  • Glam Barbie
    Glam Barbie 2 дня назад +1

    Any small or big RUcliprs want to support each other?💖✨💜

  • Sabrina Walker
    Sabrina Walker 2 дня назад

    I dont watch these videos I mean from the picture of when y'all was together you dont look like that I mean were you hoping for his come up and now you look completely different and your making new records of old that could been reported years ago I mean it does seem to happen like especially when the people are exactly who they knew they would be

    THANOS 2 дня назад

    People you need to stop living in "Your Truth" and see "The Truth"...I hear some many people completely reinterpret what they watched after watching this. documentary.

  • David the Renaissance Man
    David the Renaissance Man 3 дня назад

    Sooooo you're stupid. Now we ALL know. Thanks. Cause knowledge is power. G.I. JOOOEEEE!

  • Alfonso Leal
    Alfonso Leal 3 дня назад

    What happened with r Kelly why do people want him in jail???

    • Carina Kriessman
      Carina Kriessman 2 дня назад

      He has a history of going after underage girls, and has been found with child pornography but hasn't been put in jail.

  • H S
    H S 3 дня назад

    Allll these red flags and she stayed all those years. She obviously agreed to all of this idk what shes asking for now?

  • Nikki Burris
    Nikki Burris 3 дня назад

    ⛔ Life Time
    Break the 🎤 Trin2Hyype aka J.B Hunt Jr "The Heir" true story... Where did the money come from & where did it go⬅

  • romaleshawn
    romaleshawn 3 дня назад

    Haven't seen this many black women fake crying in my life

  • romaleshawn
    romaleshawn 3 дня назад

    Good enough for you you shouldn't took the check

  • 0987754 9086
    0987754 9086 3 дня назад +2

    But you still did it though....

  • ꧁Ms. Essance TV꧂
    ꧁Ms. Essance TV꧂ 3 дня назад

    ★ 🎀 𝐿💕𝓋𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓉❢ 𝐸𝓍𝒸𝑒𝓁𝓁𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓋𝒾𝒹𝑒😱❢ 🎀 ★

  • Eli Cordero
    Eli Cordero 3 дня назад +2

    In my opinion the reason why R.kelly is not incarcerated is because there's not enough evidence

  • Eli Cordero
    Eli Cordero 3 дня назад

    R.kelly has issues

  • Eli Cordero
    Eli Cordero 3 дня назад

    Me and my father saw this it was so sickening

  • Blessings 777 777
    Blessings 777 777 3 дня назад

    R.kelly is the talk of the devil. R.kelly is the devil himself. If the American government cannot put R. kelly in Jail then they are not doing their Job. R.kelly is not bigger than the law.

  • Valentino Falcon
    Valentino Falcon 3 дня назад

    NM,so true. Thank you

  • C B
    C B 3 дня назад

    Dirty player. Dirty Whores..takes 2 or as she says 3 to tango at the ripe age of 18. Bet she loves her 15 minutes of shame fame and herpes!

  • Rendroc
    Rendroc 3 дня назад

    She had to dodge a lot of pee I guess.

  • itchyballszzz
    itchyballszzz 3 дня назад

    Some Women lie about their age and cause us men to get in trouble. Men be careful!!

  • Jason Peng
    Jason Peng 3 дня назад +2

    if only they hadn't taken the hush either get justice or money. you don't get both. the reason he aint in jail yet is legit cus people take hush money.

  • Christopher Wesley
    Christopher Wesley 3 дня назад

    Don't believe the hype, pay attention people for this one is an legend of real music but one whon signed an fame.....the realest Steph contract y

  • David Gaugamela
    David Gaugamela 3 дня назад

    How can I watch this full six-part documentary? Anyone know?

  • Dany Deee
    Dany Deee 4 дня назад

    I haven’t seen the whole thing yet but in this clip in a court of law there’s nothing wrong. She saw an openly placed camera and by the sounds of it consented to a threesome. Yes he manipulated her but psychological manipulation isn’t a crime.

  • trinity williams
    trinity williams 4 дня назад

    Where can I watch the full thing

  • Mathers Davis
    Mathers Davis 4 дня назад

    Ave come to accept that this stories are fake and someone oils the pockets, many men have had their careers ended just like that by some crazy story and its usually some of the best people around, if this isn't same script as MJ's then i dont know OJ too now its kelly soon they will pull the rug from under jayz's,kanye,RickRoss,lilwayne could be anybody all a while using gender violence as a weapon.

  • Eye Out Tongue Out
    Eye Out Tongue Out 4 дня назад

    how come she didn't speak out before

  • Travis Heinze
    Travis Heinze 4 дня назад

    I don't see any problems here except for the fact that Lisa got fat and probably no longer sexually attractive. This is why the sugar industry needs to be outlawed.

  • mhamadac
    mhamadac 4 дня назад

    you made a fortune living with him tho.... so yeah... you were "part of the problem"

  • Lacristee Thompson
    Lacristee Thompson 4 дня назад

    I have a question🙋‍♀️ Now, what if things would’ve turned out with R. Kelly being her husband, and she was the only one. Would she be mad at him? Would she even be talking or crying?

  • Playhouse Multimedia
    Playhouse Multimedia 4 дня назад

    You was a groupie n yo momma ddn know

  • Nill Gddy
    Nill Gddy 4 дня назад

    I dont believe a word you say

  • Techno sailor
    Techno sailor 4 дня назад

    Why are women such drones jesus. Stand up for yourselves

  • 1981yama
    1981yama 4 дня назад +1

    Fat lair

  • Lindsay  Sundefreelancewriting
    Lindsay Sundefreelancewriting 4 дня назад


  • David Lewis
    David Lewis 4 дня назад

    What about Birdman Puffy Jay z them nights pedos too

  • Bilboy tumishang
    Bilboy tumishang 4 дня назад

    Now all you R kelly exes survived him

  • Renez
    Renez 4 дня назад

    So MANY comments.
    Where were the PARENTS?
    What ACTIONS did the PARENTS take to hold Kelly responsible.
    THOSE kids parents are on the same level as Kelly.
    MONEY talked, allowing BULLSH*T to walk.

  • Annie Oglesby
    Annie Oglesby 4 дня назад

    She just got played and R.Kelly dump her. These girl where legally age.

  • Bynez
    Bynez 4 дня назад

    ?? I don't understand the issues? She could leave at any point right?

  • Hooligan
    Hooligan 4 дня назад

    Drip drip drip

  • Alilruthless
    Alilruthless 4 дня назад

    I do gotta say though that background music makes for some real great compelling tv.

  • vivianna hinks
    vivianna hinks 4 дня назад

    The guy thought he cud fly for God's sake...jus step in the name of love. Meanwhile there r very real things going on like global water crisis and starvation. Plus my phone company doesn't always give me what I paid for.

  • Candise Ellis
    Candise Ellis 5 дней назад

    I see so many comments and so many truly upset people saying R Kelly should be in prison...and I agree..he should be ...along with Lisa...his entire camp who knew what was going on..and the parents of this 13 year old child who was raped by Kelly and Lisa...unfortunely he was the only one brought to trial and was acquitted because the girls parents said it was not her..even though her auntie and others clearly identified her. Now after all these years not one of these young women or his ex wife ever pressed criminal what is he going to jail for?

  • Maria Fletcher
    Maria Fletcher 5 дней назад +1

    it's about time

  • NPC 2845
    NPC 2845 5 дней назад

    Well, at least he’s not a cuck.

  • key Fullington
    key Fullington 5 дней назад

    wtf was her mom at

  • BlueMidnight
    BlueMidnight 5 дней назад

    She really suspect

  • Melody McKenzie
    Melody McKenzie 5 дней назад

    Sad part is everyone played a roll in his evil plans, his staff and the accusers parents.. Seems like as long as that check was cut no one cared... And now that the emotional weight is taking a toll everyone wants justice... He should have been stopped.. Period.

  • BriEnne Logan
    BriEnne Logan 5 дней назад

    kelly would not have been able o do this had their parents no given permission PERIOD

  • B FIG
    B FIG 5 дней назад

    *What Lifetime & Lisa Van Allen didn't tell you. From the court room...She received immunity from the state's attorney and U.S. attorney for any crimes she might have committed aka child molestation & extortion*

  • Boom
    Boom 5 дней назад

    Why do people say 17 is a little girl but a year later they’re a grown women lolol. I’m no pedo that’s just funny lmao

  • Typical Waves
    Typical Waves 5 дней назад

    R kelly all the way ama right guys

  • Worldsmasterof spirits Spiritseekerscanada tm*

    THYFOUNDINGFATHER Gsc ssc worldsmasterof spirits spiritseekerscananda tm * And this is what happens when you live a sinful life,,,

  • Joel Cohen
    Joel Cohen 5 дней назад

    Sounds very consensual.

  • Linda Flagg, MA, BCPCLC
    Linda Flagg, MA, BCPCLC 5 дней назад +1

    Pray For R. Kelly: God we ask You in Jesus’ name that You will touch R. (Robert) Kelly and save, heal, deliver, and set him free. God he needs help. He needs You. God do the inner-healing in his life that is needed. Show him, himself and show him the areas You God want to work on in his life. Show him where he is wrong. Let him not harden his heart, but be open for the inner-healing, deliverance, and the great things You want to do for him and in his life. Let R. Kelly partner with You (his Savior and Lord) and work on these areas. Bless him to become all You created him to be and nothing less. God use R. Kelly for Your glory and good pleasure. God all that we have asked of You in this prayer, please do the same for everyone who prays this prayer over R. Kelly’s life and every Christian that I know. But God most importantly, save, heal deliver, and set free eachand every man, woman, and child (including his children) he has hurt in any way, shape or form. God we all need more of You. Bless each of us with more of You. Help us all Lord Jesus. Thank You. Amen, so be it, and it is so.

  • Doctor Mashigo
    Doctor Mashigo 5 дней назад

    So tell us about the shopping days, your birthdays, mmmmmm i dont stand with R but there got to be good times

  • Kiko Dimo
    Kiko Dimo 5 дней назад

    Thats not what a “Runner” means but IGHT

  • Keeping up with the Joneses
    Keeping up with the Joneses 5 дней назад

    I want to know is Lisa Van Allen going to be charged as well because she's admitting she participated ijs!!!

  • Irk Me
    Irk Me 5 дней назад

    Selling my mask two for one.

  • Katrina Williams
    Katrina Williams 5 дней назад

    President Trump was doing the same thing has done the same thing whatever you may call it it's wrong that R Kelly is doing it but I do not like that you guys elected a guy who did the same thing you guys not black balling everything he's doing and I just upfront do not believe some of these women as a victim myself I will never turn my back on someone who is speaking out but some of these allegations are just crazy not speaking on her documentary or this particular film

  • ThematicMuzik
    ThematicMuzik 5 дней назад +2

    She’s pretty

  • Spanish Montana
    Spanish Montana 5 дней назад

    That lady knew he liked young girls so she introduced him to her 14 year old niece, I feel sorry for the girl but the lady clearly pimped her out...she should go jail too

  • YonI
    YonI 5 дней назад

    Parents are the ones to blame for what happened to this kids, they let this guy do whatever for money or what

  • DerkuiDerkui
    DerkuiDerkui 5 дней назад

    Why hasn't Chris from Dateline go after this guy?

  • Rohan Simpson
    Rohan Simpson 5 дней назад

    You girls just love stars lol

  • Ariel Melendez
    Ariel Melendez 5 дней назад

    I don’t understand what she exactly survived? That he lied to her about a threesome and told her to call him daddy? 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • Shavron Baksh
    Shavron Baksh 5 дней назад

    Wow!!! The only reason I feel he should pay for what he did n is doing is because it's not ok to lie n use someone to satisfy your desires and then drop them like hot potato.... Every man that does this weather with one or multiple women should be held responsible for their actions.... Women lives are completely destroyed when things like these are done to them.... Some women are never able to put their lives back together again... I wish this kind of action should become a federal offence with a long jail time attached to it... This goes for both men n women...

  • SuperCushcush
    SuperCushcush 5 дней назад

    This issue with R.Kelly has opened many social ills other than child manipulation and molestation. If has sparked conversation over Parental guidance, increased roles of fatherly guidance, the negative effects of Gynocentrism- many fathers were forced out of home throughout the female empowerment movement. Also has touched on the fact that children are overwhelmingly being exposed to adult centered activity and content from the highest levels to lowest levels of our society. Has touched on personal accountability of women to learn to say "No" to indecent behaviors of men even if the man is attractive, wealthy and/ or rich. Hopefully these beautiful women will find value in a regular God fearing man- as long as he can keep a home and car for transportation- she can buy the😆 Stop going out with drug dealers, ball players and entertainers. A regular will value you more and everyone values a person who values themselves.

    JUDAS DA SNITCH 5 дней назад

    I'm a gigolo banging lots of ho, now they lawyer up cuz they want that dough......

  • Torri Jones
    Torri Jones 5 дней назад

    i just rolled my eyes at lisa shes jealous

  • Eastwood Rufus
    Eastwood Rufus 5 дней назад

    😂😂😂, i can't!!

  • Shae Gibb
    Shae Gibb 5 дней назад

    I find it funny how people are just now (rightfully) getting mad about R.Kelly but will turn the volume up any time a Chris Brown song comes on.

  • hiep tan
    hiep tan 5 дней назад

    Sick person 😷

  • K P
    K P 5 дней назад

    How come nobody questions a man when he says a priest raped him after he was silent for 32 years? But women are questioned and judged when coming out about a celebrity?

  • Dr Dead
    Dr Dead 5 дней назад

    R. abusive ni g g er. Suprise suprise.

  • Cpnrad Fru
    Cpnrad Fru 5 дней назад

    like the should stop acting like he forced them the where madly in love and blind and stupid

  • John Nguyen
    John Nguyen 5 дней назад

    All of the 'victims' wanted easy money but got played. Y'all could leave right? He ain't kill nobody. If he wasn't rich, they would've walked out the moment they felt 'abused'.

  • Terrell Miller
    Terrell Miller 6 дней назад

    Money Made them Come

  • The 4th Horseman
    The 4th Horseman 6 дней назад +2

    So your telling me that all the singers,producers, musicians,etc that worked with this devil for the last 25 years didn't say a word about what he was doing. I think the conversation needs to be not only about Kelly but all the people around him who kept silent for all these years.

  • Sound Therapy
    Sound Therapy 6 дней назад

    we have known about this guy since Dave Chapelle skit. why is this blowing up again?

  • Kelvin Cool
    Kelvin Cool 6 дней назад

    Shutup eeeeee

  • 8D Music
    8D Music 6 дней назад

    Who's just here to read the comments 😂

  • 8D Music
    8D Music 6 дней назад

    He has a great voice, made great music, nevertheless, if anybody defends his actions should question themselve

  • thehotsixer1
    thehotsixer1 6 дней назад

    This series should be more accurately titled "Surviving Stupidity."