In the USA, many school systems hire younger teachers, "the Millennials aka Generation Y" from programs like America’s Choice, or Teach for America, or some other groups and develop a reciprocal partnership to get a financial, federal kick-back in funds. Why keep an experienced senior teacher making more money when they can hire an inexperienced young teacher and pay that person much less? Unfortunately, money is more important to them than cultivated education. So aside from 14th amendment violations practiced by some preferential principals, money is another motive for firing tenured senior teachers. If these senior teachers do not retire, or resign then, they are issued unsatisfactory evaluations, or their working environment is made uncomfortable. . . In other countries, experienced, senior teachers are greatly valued and respected for their knowledge. Perhaps that is the reason that “U.S. students’ academic achievement still lags that of their peers in many other countries.” www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/15/u-s-students-internationally-math-science/Show lessREPLYVictoria Matthews
Singapore needs to fix the "Singlish" problem!
"Class, we have visitor today, you ALL BETTER BEHAVE!" "YES Teacher!"
Moses GTC lol exactly what my cher did
The reason why education works in Singapore, is because it's just extremely competitive. I lived there.
This is bullshit.Education path in Singapore is way too broad and takes a long time just to get a pathetic undergrad degree.I've worked with many people who have college degrees and those who don't even have their diploma. Many of which don't even know what they are doing. Though, needless to say those without degrees are usually the ones who are more passionate about their work.
Biggest problem with the education system is that it is way too efficient. Students are seen as nothing more than commodities and future resources, which is why they are drilled academically to no end day and night. Everyone knows that the government's appeal to encourage the art stream is bullshit. Sciences are always perceived to be more superior because it is what will drive the economy. Arts is the government's last concern, regardless of how much they deny it. The hard truth is that schools and the government care little for students' emotional and mental wellbeing, and suicide rates are not even openly discussed because the government wants to sweep the emotional repercussions of the merciless education system under the carpet.
6:06 Rubbish , Asians wanting face value , where is the truth
It is not problem in schools or teachers ... on the West... problem is in kids, in the parents and in the sistem overall. If the kid want to learn they will learn without all this fancy stuff but if you have kids who are more interested about how they look or about boy/girls relationships then science... than no fancy classroom or good teacher can not help them learn better.
And then they added common core...
I don't know why with all the negativity on Singapore education system. As a Malaysian, I see Singapore's education system and the whole operations of nurturing whilst educating the young ones as an amazing work. The proof of the excellent education system in Singapore is you yourself. Your country has had huge development in all aspects especially economic and education..
I don't think America's education system and teaching workforce is really that bad or us better than them. Don't take the study or ranking results that seriously.
because of common core children are basically left behind in math
80% people here talk bout how bad Singapore education is
haha .... you have to understand , there's a sub-group of Singaporeans who think it is really cool to criticise anything and everything in Singapore ... and they have nothing better to do in their lives but to troll every youtube video on every aspect of Singapore life. You know what they say about sad trolls ...
my whole mind blows!!!! f*** indian education system WHOLE BOOKS , STUDY BY HEART, GET A IN 80 MARKS EXAM
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No wonder they do so well. They have a school with no:1. Teen pregnancy2. Drug use3. Single-mother families4. Kids who don't know who their father's name5. Kids with a father who's in jail6. School sports being emphasized over learning7. Parents complaining that the curriculum is centered on a particular ethnic group8. Kids born to drug-addicted mothers9. Vagrants allowed to "hang out" in front of the building10. Litter allowed to pile up on the sidewalk
Hmmmm... Sure. We're really good at teaching our students in terms of reading, math and science. But what else? Most of our youth have absolutely no clue about what it means to be a politically- and socially-aware member of society. Students lack civic and social education. Ask a random Singaporean youth about global affairs and more often than not, they'll be stumped. The government and education ministry prizes economically-relevant skills above all else. Nothing else matters.
I wish our Syrian educational system was like Singapore's.
Singapore has the highest rate of suicide in students....
+Coco straitstimes.com I think I misread this report.... Sorry.
+Coco I saw this on a study somewhere, not just making this up.
nope.. that's NZ
USA uses 5 percent on education with trillions they can spend Lel
Aiyoh y liddat siah?
Mr Adnan at 1:47 😂😂😂
It is stressful to be a student here, even in primary school. For Primary Schoo Leaving Exam, the 6th graders are tested on what they learn from 3rd / 4th grade upwards, and sometimes the questions can be confusing, esp when it comes to Maths. And then it gets easy in the 1st year in secondary school, but in 3rd year, there was a great increase of what they learnt from 2nd yeae, but then in 4th year, there werw much more students gotta learn because there will be O levels at end of year. they were expected to capture fast in case they get left behind. If i am not wrong, O levels at end of 4th year includes what they learn in the earlier years. This can be stressful, not only with the large amount of content in each subject they have to remember, but also the number of subjects they have to handle. And the students are expected to achieve an A or at least B in all subjects.
dbm 4794 Well, I guess it depends on schools and parents. I personally don't find the system so stressful. Not everyone view exams as something to stress over about, especially one of my classmates who actually wanted to fail every single subject. He passed one so he was pretty upset about that. 😂
Sorry at the beginning i meant parents are kiasu XD. Never type properly
dbm 4794 its not so bad lah. Yes a lot of students are "kiasu" but its because they want the best in their kids. I would know, I live here and a lot of my classmates have tuition because of theor parents. But, that being said, there are multiple pathways for the students to make it. Of course I'm not disagreeing with the fact that it is very stressful during exam season with the PSLE and O/N levels and that needs to be inproved on but at the end of the day, humans are the only resource Singapore has. So of course its gotta have this stressful highly competitive environment, and honestly I'm lucky that my parents dont care whether i get A or B, they care about whether I actually put in effort to do my best so I guess that helps me out a bit in terms of MY stress level and some my friends are the same. Honestly right, my class doesnt really care bout exams at all. Joking around all the time in class and then laugh at their horrible results in SA2, SA1 you know? And I dont know whether if it happens in other schools but my school just has a bunch of stuff like lunchtime concerts every once in a while by students, like it releives a bit of stress and having a lot of fun cheering on ya schoolmates and classmates and the ccas that wanted to perform for the concert. But from my own personal life, i actually didnt find our educational system that stressful. :)
Bk your burger king wow I eat their food but it's so sucks like your country don't even compare Singapore u sucks your country are like rubbish bin
at 0:40... we arent Thai! lololololol!
Unfortunately, Singapore is a borderline dictatorship, most definitely a one-party state. It is also wildly out-of-step with its legal code relative to other Commonwealth countries and the United States of America.
and it seems to be working..
Highlights top performing countries: Canada, Finland and Singapore but completely ignores that fact that Shanghai China is 1st in all three subjects lmao
Well the latest PISA ranking 2015 which puts Singapore in the first spot. The data collected from Beijing, Shanghai, Jiangsu and Guandong for China. The ranking in the video is outdated which is from 2009.
+Eddard Liebber Yes exactly but these results show that shanghai/china's methods are more effective then Finland.. I mean why take second best when you could learn from the best?
Eddard Liebber agreed
They are interested not only in the result but mainly the methods used to get those results. I heard that in Shanghai/China it's mostly long schooldays, ROTE learning and a focus on standardized testing which is pretty much the opposite of a country like Finland for ex.
Let's move to Singapore with our kids!!! 😃😃😃👍🏽
Lis Ozonder It is stressful to be a student here, even in primary school. For Primary Schoo Leaving Exam, the 6th graders are tested on what they learn from 3rd / 4th grade upwards, and sometimes the questions can be confusing, esp when it comes to Maths. And then it gets easy in the 1st year in secondary school, but in 3rd year, there was a great increase of what they learnt from 2nd yeae, but then in 4th year, there werw much more students gotta learn because there will be O levels at end of year. they were expected to capture fast in case they get left behind. If i am not wrong, O levels at end of 4th year includes what they learn in the earlier years. This can be stressful, not only with the large amount of content in each subject they have to remember, but also the number of subjects they have to handle. And the students are expected to achieve an A or at least B in all subjects.
bruh. .. I live next to tampines primary school
From the comments here, I can tell self-criticism is a national past time in Singapore
working on a single party system (which might not be bad) self criticism is important not only for improvement but as a way for check n balance
This is all true, it is good for us, and is critical (forgive the pun) for us to progress further. The self criticism is closely tied with our highly held virtue of modesty or humility.But my purpose is to begin conversation that we ourselves realise this tendency is not shared by many advanced nations. This becomes important when we communicate, and compete with others.Especially with Americans, they take things very literally, and they come from an opposite culture of self-promotion. Having interacted with many Americans at work and socially, it took a few times for them to mention: "why do you guys have no confidence?" before I realised this our national trait. They interpret self effacement and modesty as a lack of confidence, or a self admitted lack of quality of our products.There is a lesson in this, that while we quietly expect others to see quality inherent in us or our products, we are living in a competing world of self promotion. Our overseas efforts can be much more effective if we realise this trait, whether it be exports, or services, or just cultural influence.All we have to do is to look at the disproportionate size of Korean soft power, and we can realise this particular difference in our cultures. The South Koreans are not unique in this. If we look at Japan, Hongkong etc. we can start seeing our trait of over-modesty a little better.
Self-criticism is what allows society to progress.
And this, to be honest, is what I find truly interesting about the social dynamic here. As we Singaporeans are willing to reflect and criticise the apparent flaws even in a decent-enough system, is what drives our people to improve and refine it to a greater degree. This is actually evident in the education system here, which has undergone serious fundamental changes since the 1990s, from a highly banded, elitist and draconian system that bred a 'lost generation' of students whom struggled in the class strata based on exam grades alone, to a now more holistic approach with greater appreciation for 'beyond-the-exam-grades' skills in the 21st century. And as a Singaporean, I truly am rather appreciative of this, even if serious errors and cracks remain existent.
ite means its the end
LMFAO. Not all Primary and secondary schools have such a high budget where they can use smart boards or even laptops . Also, all students are subjected to standardized testing which if they fail they would get my supplementary classes which would be counterproductive since almost everyday the student will feel stress for the next test , homework and even projects since they will have less time to devote to these tasks .
dylan.wangs the laptops in beacon primary school are the children's oen laptop.and as beacon primary school is the first future school,of course the need technology
but nanyang is one of the best no?
My school( Nanyang Primary School) Does not have such stuff. White board,markers& paper and pen
Singapore standards are: A = AverageB = BadC = Cannot have dinnerD = Don't come homeF = Find a new family
U=U are dead to us
bk G:Go away
Thats just Asia.
Want children to read a lot and enjoy it?Let them play an adventure game, RPG or visual novel.
They didn't show secondary school students, I wondered if they would smile like how primary school students did. Me myself is a secondary school student and I would say a big NO
This was about as bland and uninformative as you could make a video. Nice conclusions too; basically that we just need to become more collaborative and de-emphasize testing to perform more like Singapore. Certainly something that a teacher's union, who sponsored this video, would find appealing.
Tyler Wells We emphasise too much on grades and tests. Major exams in primary and secondary school will be tested on what they learn in the previous years
In Brazil the universities that form teachers stuff them with Paulo Freire.
Here are the links that tell the fact about whether Singaporean is learning by rote :www.oecd.org/pisa/keyfindings/PISA-2012-PS-snapshot-performance.pdfwww.oecd.org/pisa/keyfindings/PISA-2012-results-volume-V.pdfSome Singapore's young students are going through the whole comments board to shoot down anyone who has differed view from their opposing opinion about Singapore's educational system. I can tell that the student is likely holding a lot of anger within. Singapore should do more to reduce the stress of young student. On the other hand, Capitalism and globalization has created a very competitive world. 1.4 billion Chinese is quickly adapting to the modern pace and another 1.4 billion Indian in the pipeline, I don't see an easier life ahead for the next generation. Stress is inevitable when your desire is way bigger than your ability.
India should move to this type of education teaching, not to make a student employed but smart enough to have a knowledge and make one tension free of obstacles and face it through the excitement knowledge they have........ Shreya, Hope so India would progress.
It is heartening to see someone inspired by our system, but I sincerely feel that the amount of effort and intensity our nation puts to the system is highly demanding, and would require an insane amount of logistic cost, manpower cost, feasibility tests and all sorts of redtape and loopholes to work in India, such a colossal nation of over a billion people. It would be good to see a few cities adopt this first, albeit the concern being the insane inequality that would result from the disparity in quality of education between the cities and the villages...if India can even initiate such a pilot to begin with.
Btw just visit a JC to understand 'test-based accountability'
6:05 "You didn't hear about test-based learning" hahaha key-phrase is 'you didn't hear'. Just because you didn't hear about it doesn't mean it's not true.
I really want to study at singapore . Nice education .
It is a living hell
The Singaporean Government is really good at putting up a facade, don't believe this crap. It's just another propaganda video released by the dictatorship that is PAP.
no tests? I think you guys are forgetting about the PSLE, O-levels, A-levels, and if you do badly N-levels. The teachers here are treated like shit and have to vote for the PAP or risk getting sacked. Joyful? what is that bs? A girl in my school committed suicide last year for not doing well in her end of years. Most of us go to school purely because our friends are there. Our system may have high scores, but trust me, nobody here is avtually motivated
mimimomo oxo omg true i go school just for friends
+Anon Y. Mous to correct you a bit: streaming occurs since 10, when students are banded to Higher Mother Tongue, normal MT or foundational ones.
I have to agree with you for quite some degree here regarding that error saying 'no tests' in the video and that controversial part about how teachers are programmed to be pro-PAP (come on; they are public servants, what do you expect), but I have got to say that you adopt a too myopic a view to claim that "nobody here is actually (sic) motivated" in Singapore. This really depends on your situation here, I believe. I may be unable to acknowledge your experiences, given that I have always breezed through the exams/tests/whatsoever here (taking A Levels this year, just saying), but I have seen for myself what constitutes as motivated learners that are not the stereotypical 'muggers' or an unmotivated group around. While I do admit that those like you constitute a significant amount of students in the population, there is still a majority at least, that thrives and reaps the benefits more so than the flaws in the education system after 10/13/16++ years.
I don't think that taking N levels means you did extremely bad as it can be helpful for those who are slower learners as they also get the chance of taking O levels eventually. It really depends but something should be done about the stress levels in the students:(
+golden_music P.H.Y (Musicka) If I ever have children I would never let them grow up here, think of how damaging all of this is.
Seeing all these comments make me sad. Why? BECAUSE BLOODY IDIOTS ARE BEING UNGRATEFUL FOR HAVING THE CHANCE TO GO SCHOOL AND HAVING AN EDUCATION!! ITS UNBELIEVABLE!! YES we have test! YES we have major exams to study for! I'll agree on those things BUT they are for CRITICAL THINKING and to see whether or not we as STUDENTS UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT! Why else would they bother to put the weaker students in supplementary classes? It's so that they can ask the questions they wanted to ask in a normal class that still lingered in their heads!! GET FACTS FIRST ON WHY THINGS ARE DONE!! I really cannot believe how many of you can talk TRASH about your own education!! Then what huh?!? You want to fail and go work at McDonalds and live with your parents for the rest of your life is it?!??!!!! DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT STRESS WHEN MANY OTHERS DONT EVEN GET THE CHANCE TO DO SO!!!!
+golden_music P.H.Y (Musicka) cheh 😂😅 but still it's like so high you know right?
+Gina Chen haha no lah. I got in via affiliation😅
+golden_music P.H.Y (Musicka) wah! So good. It's like the school that has the highest aggregate score to get into. You so smart
+golden_music P.H.Y (Musicka) and yeah. Sorry, was feeling really frustrated by the comments when I read it at the time
Welp, all I can say is, the delusion is real.
But the delusion here is world class?I think you are the delusioned one :(
I wish teachers get paid like Doctors are it is only fair, FYI I am not even a teacher.
Man, look at the girl recite propaganda ._.
+golden_music P.H.Y (Musicka) Well said.
+Anon Y. Mous the government is nothing but a group of insecure little girls. That is why they do not accept free speech. Furthermore, they brainwash Singaporeans into thinking that they are saints. I assure you that if the PAP were tasked to go to Greece and fix their economy, they would end up running back to Singapore crying for their mommies. Because unlike Singaporeans, the people of Greece were not fed PAP propaganda their whole lives. They would never stand for the PAP's dictatorship.
+golden_music P.H.Y (Musicka) Leaving Singapore would be the best thing anyone here can do, where we can live happily and voice our opinions without being arrested. Just look at Amos Yee, he expressed HIS opinions and thoughts on HIS video on HIS channel. People can choose whether they want to watch the video or not, but these brainwashed idiots vehemently condemned him and some even called the police; shameless fuckwits. And worst of all, they think that he deserved to be arrested. What he's saying must be true, if not why would the government want him arrested if what he's saying is incorrect?
+Anon Y. Mous yes I agree. We students are forced to sing praises to this political party without objection. It doesnt even end there, remember Roy Ng? I feel really bad for that guy.
+golden_music P.H.Y (Musicka) And if you noticed, the questions they give are always something like, 'Why is the Singapore government so sucessful?' (example) and never 'Do you think the Singapore Government is successful?' This is how they brainwash the students slowly; they never encourage opposing thoughts or encourage us to think independently and have our own opinions.
what are u talking about
i try not to, but i do understand its importance
Yup propaganda that's world class (:So what propaganda you recite? xD
Believe or not, Singapore is the one of the most dictatorship countries. Just because of Europe-USA political propaganda people don't know this. For example, if U curse premier U ill be jailed.
if you say anything bad about the PAP, 99% of the time you lose your job. Not to mention all civil servants have to vote for that effed up party
yo stfu education here is fucked yo
lol America will never get it together lol
+Anon Y. Mous :(
It's ok dude, at least it's not as bad there as it is here.
NO TESTS???????? WTF IS THE PSLE, O LEVELS, ALEVELS THEN????? Singapore's government, that inculdes the civil service, is best at one thing and that is creating a false image. and that techniacal school? those are people rejected by the main system and in order for the government to look like they never gave up on them, they set up that school
must be part of the 30%
It has a propaganda purpose to begin with, so why the outburst? In fact, I would look beyond what is skin deep and consider the legitimacy of some of the video's claims instead, as ultimately - even propaganda has its purpose (no pun intended). Take for instance at 4:38, where the American lady elaborated on the focus on commerce and employment that our education system is highly geared towards. At least, unlike US system which is rather flawed (they truly do Math with no intentions in mind, unlike in SG where there is some hints of legitimacy when it comes to sec school onwards: accountancy, business and engineering content-based math learnt in this stage of life), we do have an end in mine, albeit in the video does not show any problems and flaws to such a rigid structure (the fit into multiple smaller keyholes analogy: where in SG if you do not work in business/STEM/entrepreneurship fields, you're basically doomed), which can be argued and discussed upon separately and requires no need to feel emotional distressed about just because the video does not point them (again, the propaganda purpose).
This video is complete bullshit, don't go to Singapore for their education, you'll never learn anything beyond the pages of your textbook. They don't make you think, they make you memorise what they want you to believe. Don't go there, you'll regret it.
testing is such a huge deal here, you have multiple tests every week or day. especially in secondary school and junior college. its just another asian country at the end of the day after all.
lol I was jc 2 last year in 2016 too so I'm probably ur competitior taking the same A levels as you. What course you going for in uni?
And as a JC 2 student this year (an equivalent of Year 12, High School 3rd), I am preparing for the GCSEs throughout November and it is one hell of a 'mugging' session, what we term locally as being intense studying. Tests everyday to polish our recalling abilities, weed off recurrent errors and insecurities, and just physical fatigue each day. Nonetheless, it is a process that I still can enjoy (quite masochistic, ain't I?) with the knowledge that it can lead me to a better future, at least. With a level of guarantee and security. Plus me being a little bit of an oddball unlike the large majority of Singaporeans who are 'below' me according to the highly demeaning 'bell curve' education system, tests and exams to me are just another set of practices again and again, albeit with a more serious context to them.
I agree with you - although it is a necessary evil as SG relies on manpower - her people as a sole resource to keep the nation relevant in an increasingly competitive global scene. Heck, just PISA will tell you Shanghai is trashing us flat, when they actually have more students that our minuscule excuse of a nation. I amuse at your analogy of us being "another Asian country" though, which is precisely a stereotype (positive one) that really makes us rather untouchably more professional than any other cultures in the world. But mind you - Asia is large. What you (assuming you're an American) might be referring to might be East Asians in particular.
Every week there are 2 or more tests, it is amazing. I am not capable to summarise all the points that hamper the efficiency of learning here. Yes many pupils may do well in collecting points.
Sad but true, a single test result could change your whole future.
Visualization vs Memorization....... I'm really sure there is hardly any visualization in Secondary school...... Heck why did they only show the primary school and ITE. Obviously the primary school students will ''enjoy'' school since they are much more curious at such a young age. Pretty sure if you ask the secondary school students if they enjoyed coming to school, many would say no.
+Absolite orFany They just force students to memorise pages from the textbooks everyday, and they call it teaching.
It's fake they does not care about the lower grades
This video is garbage.
singapore education systems sucks they only care about good grades
+Anon Y. Mous lol
Lmao it's so funny to see all the indoctrinated idiots believing the propaganda they see everyday at school.
+[HAZ]Teddy But u have to admit the pressure cooker environment in singapore.
Highly agreed my man.
They care about is because the passing mark for Singapore is 70-80 so they can get a degree and go and work
Singapore education is living in hell.They turn the people into robots and work you to hell.
Hey I play games Everyday and still get good grades ╮(╯▽╰)╭
Think of it. Children days,does your teacher give you gifts?if not, you have to right to say it bad. But if they do,please appreciate it. It for everybody good, it for everybody future. The past, did many people go to school in the early days? We are fortunate enough to go to school and learn new things and skill.
Nah it's not that bad, honestly, even though with the heavy workload I think you're exaggerating by saying they work us until we turn into robots.
isc9my5c And instead of democracy which is what said in our pledge 'to build a democratic society'
Thanks to that one flawed ideology the PAP actively applies to the nation that is called MERITOCRACY
we can see all the ungrateful people in the comments here :-D it's tough, but it works. i think streaming is redundant but other than that, i am glad that i get the education that i do. honestly, if you can't survive schooling life in singapore, you can't survive in the real world out there.
+Carole Lim oo which school you go to ah? I go Mayflower
+Krieger Helton by the way, i don't even attend SOTA or solely arts institution. i go to a normal secondary school. some schools don't offer these modules but you can request for it and they will send you to another school to study the subject there.
+Krieger Helton it destroys the creative mind? in my school, i am forced to be more creative than ever. in lower secondary, we go through art, dance, music and drama modules. at the end of each module, we present our very own performance- choreographed by us and everything, to the school. in upper secondary, students can choose to take art, music or drama as a subject. literary arts are also emphasised on. students can present their poems to the school and different students write the school paper every month. we have so many opportunities to showcase our creative abilities and often times i don't know which competition to send my piece in for because there are just so many choices. in school, i am forced to create more, think more and overall to be more innovative. where did you get the idea that it destroys the creative mind? sure the arts scene in singapore is small. but it's growing! the SG system definitely does not stifle our creativity.
+Krieger Helton that is not true. What the education in Singapore focuses on is critical thinking, how to solve a problem. Any test, any exam is based on this principal. It's NOT all about memorizing, I would know I'm still in the system as a senior in a secondary school.
Did u hear u correctly? In Finland, the real exams begin only at the age of 15/16. They are taught to question old assumptions. Hands on activity also exist within the system. SG system is a severe pressure cookeer system that destroys ones creative mind. The academic emphasis is unlike any we have seen before.
Did she say no focus on tests? No shit woman. We focus so much on tests the moment you fail one you're better off dead cuz you're prolly gonna have a life tough as hell. Btw we have monthly tests mock quizzes and semestral exams too
Teo Jordan Fail test = No pocket money for 2 weeks
Weekly tests are the norm, I was really baffled what they all want to test. Singapore education is one of the best you can get in Asia, but the reality is not as what is described here in the video.Another thing is they want to be on top of all kind of benchmarks and chart in the world, so the way how they teach is tailored to rank high.
Teo Jordan You forgot the major exams like PSLE,N level, O level,etc
My exams are comimg up
I have weekly tests😂
They never produce Great Thinker, all they produce is a Humanoid Robot Brain synthetic people that fail to inspire and expand their mind. their education system is like Military Doctrine. Follow Order and get the answer right. that's it. Don't study there. you will never think beyond education.
+Anon Y. Mous if you can not fit into system, get out of there re-invent your own. Dont follow them. The world is big. number maybe rule the world and universe, but our heart and mind rule our life. only computer rule by number.
+Krieger Helton just break the wall. Either society accept or not, it is their decision. no fear. Even they condemn you, history will judge it.
I was writing in my notebook several stories once. One of the story include relatively sexual stuff but its not meant to be interpreted in that way. It was a great story that I wrote in which I was inspired from an article on the net. From that single story, I was counselled and punished as I was advocating pornography?! All this started is because a fucking teacher didnt respect ma privacy. Thus, in singapore your expected to watch what you write, and always stay in that single box being fearful of writing something out of your comfort zone. This results in zoned-in creative thinking.
+moist faucetThey punish you for being creative, not directly.
+Anon Y. Mous Lack of Creativity....that;s the reason.....
Someone pls tell me whether this is true?"Academic excellence is a must.""If you don't get good results, then why go to school?"
+Gina Chen I was actually rather surprised at first when I read about the 'sterotype' of Asian education systems in my notes last year. But it is probably because I was still in my puberty rebellious mode and my family environment is quite strict plus I do not really focus too much on future income jobs such as doctor, lawyer or businessman which was why I was emotional and kept relating myself to all negative impacts mentioned of the Singaporean education system, such as stress when preparing for PSLE, which is a long story..... In addition, the sentences mentioned in the question I asked at the top were quoted from my father, who believes a lot in test n exam scores determing my future, hence I opened it up for discussion, and not really for debate. I just hope that someone can support my dream job of acting or zoology, and society will not look down (translation from 排斥) on such professions. I worry for the job prospects of people who have never attended secondary school.....I just do not know how to project myself.Thank you and others for contributing your views. Definitely, the discussion does not end here, supported by the Chinese saying 一種米養百種人. It just goes to show that within Singapore itself, we cannot just think that jc is all mightier than polytechnic or ite........
+Liew Soon Hao柳孫豪 wow. Mayflower
+Gina Chen I am in the IP at Dunman High School.
Singapore government always believe that the key to have a developed country is to start from young means through education. Therefore Singapore government always emphasize a lot in our education. Lack of sleeps have affect our young ones health
Indeed. Lack of sleep cripple students focus. Whats even worse is that teachers expect u to stay alert even with the underminded sleep.
Lol, the Singapore education system is terrible. Taught to memorise and memorise and not to question. School daily from 8am to 6pm, forced compulsory after-school lessons, weekend lessons, lessons during so-called school holidays, tuition classes every day. And all for what? Fucking useless.
I have to say, eduction now is better. Teachers allow students to ask questions and classes are extremely fun and interactive now. Maybe in your time, it must have been horrible but I can say, there are improvements. It depends on your environment and teachers you have.I still hate tests though but hey, everything has its perks and flaws
Always Smile That person is. Because his comment totally relate to me who is also a Singaporean
+Always Smile You're Singaporean? Are you sure? Because I clearly told you I'm an NUS undergraduate at the moment. If you're Singaporean how can you not know what and where NUS is? LOL where do I even begin. Yes, we should all shut up and stay silent in the face of flaws in a system. Got a corrupt government? Too bad, shut up. Gender inequality in workplace? Too bad, shut up. Any kind of problem or flaw you see, don't point it out, just shut up and go with the flow. Right? Right, you clearly are the amazing product of our country's education system.
+lyricaIIy Clearly, me and Gina know this because we were there and you were not. Are you Singaporean? Have you been there?Even if the school was an imperfection, what can we do? It is by the decision of the MOE to control the system responsively and responsibly. You are not MOE and therefore, you cannot decide what the school should hear and not hear. Do you get the picture yet?
+Gina Chen LOL. Just because I find fault with a system (and voice it), does not mean I am ungrateful. Would you say that everyone who doesn't vote PAP are ingrates who don't appreciate what LKY did for our country? Maybe you should take a deep breath and think before jumping to farcical conclusions.I don't even know where to begin with your second and third statements. Drop out and work at MacDonalds? HAHAHA. I would, if working at Macs would provide me with the income I need to live the kind of life I want. Unfortunately, that isn't possible WITHOUT A DEGREE so essentially I, and most everyone else, don't have a choice. Sure, some people who drop out of school do make it big out there but what are the chances of that happening? And I won't even begin to address your third statement because it's not worth my time. Also LOL at you saying "every school helps you pursue your passions and dreams". Really now?! Maybe your school does that, but I find it hilarious how you feel like you can speak for every school because how the hell would you know? My school sure didn't, much less encourage us to think about our passions and dreams and what we wanted in life. Even in university now, ask anyone what they dream of doing once they graduate and half will tell you they don't know or give some vague "answer". At least the people I've spoken to. If everyone were like you and just decided to shut up and run away instead of voicing their opinion on what they find wrong/bad about the system…….
Just like North Korea
singapore just want student minds to explode the studying there is like crazy
Haha u made my day.
i don't know how singapore can get 5th place for reading singapore does not use english they use singlish
+Teo Jao Rui What I'm trying to say is that, seeing from the way you type. I don't expect you to be surrounded by people of high intellegence.
+Kris Low Kris that is true. Some of my friends pronounce two as tro
+Teo Jao Rui Seeing the way you type, I'm sure you're surrounded by people who can't read.
It is called Indoctrination--not education.
+Steve Lee now we all know why only few great thinker in the world, because they aginst our old believe.
+moist faucet What you guys have said is pretty accurate. However, thing is that Singapore is really good at producing technocrats. If there are specific tasks to complete or particular problems to solve or do, Singaporean educated people will solve or do it. I mean Singaporeans are way up there in maths and science up to school leaving age. However, as you say, any thinking out of the box is frowned upon. That has left a hole in our tertiary education. We need scientists who can invent, innovators who can create. That is where things must improve if possible.
+Krieger Helton Welcome to our world education.
+moist faucet If u wrote something out of the box, you can say goodbye to your grades.
+Steve Lee he is right, it is indoctrination. if you tell the teacher there never have sun set and sun rise, for sure they will fail you completely. however, you are not all wrong, because the teacher never met the planet have 2 sun and 2 moon. now, what is the education ? is it about understanding how the world works? or..just get the answer right, base on their education system ?
the most annoying english speakers are indian, vietnamese, singaporean, and cantonese.
+Steve Lee I totally agree with u when u said singlish sounds retarded. When I went to vietnam, they didnt know to speak but the moment they learned a portion of english, I felt so embarassed speaking singlish.
+Rex AngYes and no. I like your answer but there are idiots out there who think that Singlish is quite wonderful. They don't realize that it makes them sound like illiterate retards who don't understand simple English. For those who do try to speak proper English, your answer is spot on.
They are just speaking english in a different accent. Remember, every Singaporean in Singapore are bilingual or even multilingual. We have 4 official languages: English, Malay, Chinese, Tamil. Due to the influence of these languages, our way of speaking english will change even though we follow the British system.
she didnt see the p5/6 students. shame, cause thats where all hell lives
Potatonator oh boy, you haven't seen sec 1-4 and JC
P1-HeavenP2-Gates of heavenP3-Drop downP4-Nearing hellP5-Gates of hell p6-Hell
+Carole Lim woahhh ive never seen someone as grumpy as you before. And on the first day of CNY? Com' on sis. Actually it kinda is. IB is a program leading up to a diploma. Its similar to any type standardised test- be it sats, Os, As, PSLE. It is just what you make of it. IB is supposed to be a program that develops a person's character and cements their love for learning but certain IB schools in Singapore have taken the A level direction to the already tedious and strenous program - resulting into a hellpit for the students. Cheers! And dont reply
+Kris Low lol IB is not singapore's doing. take your garbage and complain somewhere else.
+Natale Tan Oh dear... you haven't seen IB before have you.
Ha, drop 2 or three englewood honor students in the midst of a singapore class, after the teacher's purse comes up missing and all the lunch money is taken the grading curve will go way down.
Zul are you so sure about it?
that moment when you realise , 95 percent of the sing population is clueless , trust me , lived there for 8 years
Are you sure?
Sry to say but, as a singaporean student, the education system is bullshit. All they care about is getting good grades. Those whose grades are hopeless are doomed to suffer in the future. The education sucks. Seriously
Nil well maybe if you listened to your teacher, you wouldn't have bad grades, there's a school for those who didn't do well in school to learn life skills so they can at least have a job
Anon Y. Mous You guys just cannot cope then leave. Singapore may be tough but it provides the most opportunity to improve. EG.Some ITE students do very well. Its called a meritocracy not entitlement. Singapore must be competitive as we are small and have less of a manpower pool. In USA even if you get C you could probably work at some gas station. Its just the survival of the fittest with a lot of backup.
Good to know that more people are realising this, my advice to you is to leave Singapore after NS and never look back. The world is huge, Singapore is just a tiny island; you don't have to stay here and work like a robot, go out there and pursue your passions, do what you like. Good luck.
+Muhammad Aniq Come to our school and youll take back what u said. Its world leading based on the number of scholars produced, but behind the scences, students soul and youth, even creativity, is sacrificed in the process.
You're right. Singapore is very good at that. Lol.
I lived outside of Singapore many years and have attended schools in both Asian and the US. So i know first hand what the pros and cons are. When my children reached schooling age, I moved my family back to Singapore solely because of our education system and have never regretted the decisions.
Good for u.
As an American, I wish our educational system was more like this. How unfortunate... We'll focus on our education after the world stops treating us like treasures, especially since we destroy more money & resources than anyone else in history. Congrats to you Singapore, I'm an admirer
Hey dude, it's not abt doing well or not because sg system is fked up and that's 100% true. Those who really wanna be doctors are deprived of a chance cause their results miss by a bit whereas those who score well but their heart is not in medicine get places there because they've been indoctrinated that medicine is one of the paths to success. They end up quitting med sch halfway and the vacancies are wasted
+Anon Y. Mous sounds like you're angry because the system didn't meet your specific needs. you're not doing very well, are you?
+Krieger Helton Thanks, nice seeing you here, remember me? From the comments in Amos Yee Vids
+Anon Y. Mous Good to see that some peoples eyes are actually open. The education system here is really just a crappy shithole.
+Matthew Graham I'm a Singaporean, and what Krieger Helton says is entirely true, the education system here is crap. If an education system is intended to produce thinking individuals, Singapore fails miserably. It simply produces robots trained only to obey orders. Students who memorise pages and pages of textbooks and those who obey orders are deemed "smarter" and creativity is frowned upon here in Singapore. That is one of the reasons why Singapore has one of the highest suicide rates in Asia and is the country with the most unhappy and emotionless people. It is depressing to see so many people living without spontaneity, so many people getting stuck in the rat race. It's like living without a soul and purpose. I don't see genuinely happy people who feel socially and spiritually connected. It's stressful to be living without real freedom. We live within boundaries here physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. I'm afraid to express myself in fear of being nailed or blacklisted. In fact, if it wasn't for the internet, where we can express ourselves and learn from others more easily, I would have genuinely believed everything the teachers in school said never been able to pursue what I love and improve my general knowledge (besides the propaganda we swallow in school). Anyways, don't go there for their education, it's really just bullshit, like this propaganda video which is so fake. It's what they want you to believe.
Lol Singapore does what it does best: to wayang
Education in Hong Kong and Singapore is just more organized and systematized for standardized teaching. It doesn't mean it is better way to teach our kids.
i visit ite before leh in sec 2 ya lah i NT
very niceI love Singapore <3
I mean Sg
SGporean is a horrible country.
Weingarten watched, but picked up only what she wanted to imagine she saw. Singapore has all Singaporean, well mannered children so of course it works. Whine gardener is too dense to see that this could never work in a country that values the loudest whiner over he/she who achieves, and where correcting a student's paper - AT THE DOCTORAL LEVEL- is seen as racist micro aggression..
If Singapore wants to stay on the right track, they first thing they should do is kick Randi Weingarten out.
Their personality are suck.
Your English are suck
So different from my time and that is not too long ago or is this video full of propaganda
Singaporeans are brainwashed by mainstream media and propaganda.
If only we could control the news media of the rest of the world too. Lol
Whatever that's being shown is planned(not by AFTHQ but by the school them selves) and it only happens when the schools have visitors at the end of the day every single student is not happy nor are they actually learning out of curiousity, as a student myself Singapore is good only if you are acadamically inclined
+Krieger Helton well i went to different school from primary school bffs all of them went different schools. its extremely hard to find one day to meet up with them because they are busy with school activities or are dismissed late
+Dc Swd I attend schools to meet some of my good friends only. Its not because im WOW over Singapore system.
I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with some of your views here. I personally feel that these kids, the lower primary students, ARE learning out of curiosity. It's only when they grow up, with exams and mountains of tests, that the inquisitiveness and curiosity disappears. Another point i would disagree on would be that "Singapore is good only if you are acadamically inclined'. As a student that used to study in a neighborhood secondary school, i wasn't that academically inclined. But i had lots of fun in the singaporean education system and I'm sure I learnt a lot. I have many friends in both the normal academic and normal technical streams, and yet, they are doing well.
Ah well I do love living in Singapore, I don't think the studying is too stressful
+Krieger Helton HAHA you're so soft.
+Carole Lim You are fucking butthurt, calm down.. As far as I remember, I dont go around insulting people unless they start doing it first..
+Carole Lim Dude.. Dont go around accusing people of having a sad life.. Seriously, thats not cool at all.. What the fuck..
+Krieger Helton dude, get a grip. what do you get out of bashing SG's education system? a sense of accomplishment in your sad, pathetic life? maybe you should get a job that you deserve. (the one that this "shitty ass" education got for you)
I am still in the system.
Stupid liberals and teacher's union are destroying America's education system.
+Anon Y. Mous Yes and no. Singapore is great at producing technocrats, technology experts who can get specific tasks done. Thinking out of the box/independently/differently is a whole different ball game for Singaporeans. The problem with the American school system is that instead of helping those who fail to reach the bar by improving themselves, they lowered the bar so that more people could pass it. Both systems must be improved.
+James CoCo Still a lot better than the education here in Singapore, this video is nothing more than propaganda that the government wants you to believe.
Yes, we are way better at controlling the minds of the students.
I Dont regret being in sg :D
+Krieger Helton Another indoctrinated worshipper.
Srsly, I just cant express how relatable some of d comments here are. This video is clearly a form of propaganda, meant to portray Singapore's education as 'perfect' when it's really less den perfect. Any student in Singapore will understand d stress they face in d importance of education results as any of these will actually affect d child's future n career. Life is just too stressful here. N I can say dat as I'm a overly stressed student dat constantly thinks of suicide n ways just to escape from stress here.
+Krieger HeltonLet them be, when they grow up and get some generic job that requires you to work for the whole day with low pay, they'll still be happy with their lives. If they want to be robots then they can robots.
+Anon Y. Mous We need an antivirus against them.
Yea 100% agreed. All those idiots who keep saying we're ungrateful are indoctrinated and hopeless.
Dont u get it. The brainwashed idiots who are parents and teachers, are infecting this comment section.
America is all about liberalism and not giving a damn. In Asia education is everything. There is no point looking at other educations systems until the people change their views towards education.
Actually its wrong to group 'Asia' as a whole and make generalizations. Its just some East Asian countries that do well in the test scores.
BS, Singapore school is very results, exam oriented. Kids are been streamed as young as 8 years old.
*10. There are foundation streams for academically weaker students to go to at 10. As if the schools have to discriminate those students at such a young age.
this video is obviously incongruous with much of our own experiences. Much of my own experience in primary school was suffused with PSLE this and PSLE that. The very fact that the video shows high tec boards does little to alter the fundamental aspect of education: route memorisation of algortihms and their applications.
I must point out that education in the united states differs across the country by the state and even from town to town. But one thing is true across the board: the direction in which education heads towards is fraught with political correctness and political incentives, as in Singapore.
actually school is kinda fun. but there are so hard word problem sums. and i am a very confident person. please lah sia u go study your own school and then compare with us. your school all student dont like studying also. ma de you eat shit lah
+Alicia Tan loo
+Anon Y. Mous i just realized the immaturity of my 11 year old self 😂😂😂
You sound like an uneducated 10 year old
hey this is my country and you will do NOTHING to insult it! So people who post bad comments remove it before you shame yourself!
+Anon Y. Mous ooh, nice :)
+Anon Y. Mous 204 :P
+Alicia Tan I was from XMS too, I graduated a few years back, which class are you in?
+Anon Y. Mous my studies are alright but i just dont like the system very much
+Anon Y. Mous sec 2
Hahaha...wish this lady came to the neighborhood school where I did a stint of relief teaching...sheer pandemonium...