Plato’s best (and worst) ideas - Wisecrack

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2016
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    Few individuals have influenced the world and many of today’s thinkers like Plato. He created the first Western university and was teacher to Ancient Greece’s greatest minds, including Aristotle. But even he wasn’t perfect. Along with his great ideas, Plato had a few that haven’t exactly stood the test of time. Wisecrack gives a brief rundown of a few of Plato’s best and worst ideas.
    Lesson by Wisecrack, animation by Aaron, Tom and Mathias Studios.

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  • alfred nolan
    alfred nolan День назад

    So our reality is a proxy file

  • Sam Osteen
    Sam Osteen 3 дня назад

    Plus, he was a faithful friend to his buddy, Beetle Bailey.

  • n ziom
    n ziom 4 дня назад

    Placton

    • n ziom
      n ziom 4 дня назад

      Hearing the word Plato made me want to say plankton for some reason

  • Airazor
    Airazor 7 дней назад

    Featherless Biped?
    *looks at Kangaroo*
    Hey look, a man

  • NGUYEN LE
    NGUYEN LE 7 дней назад

    He was so angry that Plato called humans plucked birds, that he interrupted Plato's lesson by throwing a plucked chicken on the ground and made fun of him. I'm not even sure whether that is the epitome of pettiness, or the greatest and first murder by words.

  • Elena Adams
    Elena Adams 9 дней назад

    Diogenes the petty

  • Christoffer Johansson
    Christoffer Johansson 10 дней назад

    Diogenes

  • Você mesmo
    Você mesmo 16 дней назад

    Solution: anarcho capitalism

  • rishi roy
    rishi roy 25 дней назад

    Was it only me who saw a matrix in the pile of papers!

  • Kudoshi
    Kudoshi Месяц назад +1

    Anyone here dont understand a single thing? Only me? Okay.

    • Kudoshi
      Kudoshi 28 дней назад

      Almost everything. I cant wrap my head around the concept mentioned and i cant see how it is applied or how the concept is related to how things work.

    • Petyr Baelish
      Petyr Baelish 28 дней назад

      What do you not understand?
      It's not that hard...

  • LethalBubbles
    LethalBubbles Месяц назад

    The city of the Republic is your brain!

  • Otto Von Bismarck 1871
    Otto Von Bismarck 1871 Месяц назад

    Diogenes: hey guys check out this human! *Throws down a cooked rotisserie chicken*

  • Michael Efraimidis
    Michael Efraimidis Месяц назад

    In this fake video it is stated that Plato said people are made with different materials which is WRONG. He said it as a lie in order to persuade the leaders of a country to use eugenics . If you don't believe me read it his book Politeia book #3 415.A where he discusses his idea about eugenics with Glafkonas .

  • Greek Boy123
    Greek Boy123 Месяц назад

    Why did u make Plato look Egyptian

  • Balendula
    Balendula Месяц назад

    The main flaw of this video is calling an idea that is thousands of years old "bad." It seems bad to us now, but Plato had his reasons at the time for believing what he believed in.

  • Justin Marion
    Justin Marion Месяц назад

    If Plato was the inspiration for dictators and propaganda after him, then who was the inspiration for the dictators and tyrants before him?

  • neththom999
    neththom999 Месяц назад

    The only time Alfred North Whitehead is ever mentioned is in reference to to his quote about Plato and even then his name is never spoken. It's all "It's been said..." or in this case "one 20th century philosopher even went so far as to...". The guy is the Voldemort of philosophy.

  • Mr Squeaker
    Mr Squeaker Месяц назад

    Sam O’nella talked about Diogonese better.

  • Siddharth Kakroo
    Siddharth Kakroo Месяц назад

    The real founder of political science was Kautalya. He wrote a book called Arthashatra. Why can't Ted ed make a video on him.

  • Melyssa Hawes
    Melyssa Hawes Месяц назад

    plato is the epitome of an enneagram type one

  • Gustavo Exel
    Gustavo Exel Месяц назад

    What great contribution Plato gave us. If only I could live in his so wonderful democratic utopia.

  • Gustavo Exel
    Gustavo Exel Месяц назад

    Socrates didn't even exist. In his journeys to the world of forms, Plato created Socrates.

  • Gustavo Exel
    Gustavo Exel Месяц назад

    Yeah, Plato was WAY HIGH in the world of forms.

  • Bryce Perry
    Bryce Perry Месяц назад

    The ancient Egyptians were the founders of philosophy

  • Jay Mazella
    Jay Mazella Месяц назад

    This whole video is based on the presupposition that there exist objectively ‘good’ and ‘bad’ ideas. I think we can safely assume that the axiom that they’re coming from is that of contemporary Social-Democracy, as though it represents the distillation of positive progress, rather than a decaying system.
    Thanks for telling me what to think, Ted-Ed. Whatever would we do without mouthpieces such as yourself guiding us through the big scary world of philosophy.

  • Team- 22
    Team- 22 Месяц назад

    oh yeah yeah

  • Hummingbird Journey
    Hummingbird Journey 2 месяца назад +1

    Laozi took different approch, which he believes the nature of mind is formless, shapless, and constantly changing through out the illusion of time.

  • Random Doggo
    Random Doggo 2 месяца назад

    plato looks like the mascot of little caesars pizza but with a beard

  • BulletBill110
    BulletBill110 2 месяца назад +1

    u can’t just say they are bad ideas, when that’s just your opinion

  • Anna Demidova
    Anna Demidova 2 месяца назад

    "Comprised of"... hurt my ears

  • Amogh Vastrad
    Amogh Vastrad 2 месяца назад

    Now primary school students are intelligent than Plato

  • Frayjais
    Frayjais 2 месяца назад +1

    Fun to play with, not to eat

  • kristeen
    kristeen 2 месяца назад

    Not sure but when I read the republic I thought it mentioned women being of the same intellect as men? Just not as physically strong which I thought was way ahead of its time. But maybe it doesn’t I haven’t read it in a long time

  • Yellow King
    Yellow King 2 месяца назад

    Women *are* childlike.

  • EsPiri Reis
    EsPiri Reis 2 месяца назад

    So who founded plutocracy? was it pluto or someone else?

  • Max Luna
    Max Luna 2 месяца назад

    Plato: This is "Featheless Bipeds!"
    Diogenes: *Shows plucked chicken* BEHOLD, PLATO'S MAN!
    Plato: *RRROOAASSTTEEDD!!*

  • R3TR05P3CT
    R3TR05P3CT 2 месяца назад

    0:48 Minecraft Oof.

  • mburak78able
    mburak78able 2 месяца назад

    Timocracy

  • ToxicAssaultGD
    ToxicAssaultGD 2 месяца назад

    They should do something on Diogenes :D

  • gear drop
    gear drop 2 месяца назад

    plato was a brotha, athens was part of the neo-nubian empire

  • Kyle W.
    Kyle W. 2 месяца назад

    Lol founder of political science is actually a massive insult

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    A SEARCHER 2 месяца назад

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  • Rapid Fire
    Rapid Fire 2 месяца назад

    Plato's idea of the ideal society had been divided into three for a very important reason, that one person was only naturally capable of perfecting or mastering at one job and if for example someone who was a shoemaker or a business man but he had naturally been born to be a guardian or a soldier then that man would not just damage or destroy himself but also the entire society or the community because everyone depended on everyone and if one person would not be perfect at something he would hold back the entire community. There are perfectly logical reasons for Plato to not support certain aspects of democracy and if you wish to prove them or the results incorrect then you must first read and understand The Republic which clearly has been described in the video but rather the final ends of the dialogue or the ideas of Plato.

  • Aaron Calcuim
    Aaron Calcuim 2 месяца назад

    الله يجازيك الخير وشكر جزيل لك يا مترجم لكن السبب يجب ان يغير للعقل فهو الأقرب لشرح جزئية Reason 1:50

  • Guillermo Perona Guerrero
    Guillermo Perona Guerrero 2 месяца назад +1

    Actually, Plato did not argue anything, at least in the kind of way that modern philosophers do. What we call "Plato"s philosophy" is just an interpretation from his Dialogues, most of the time assuming that the real thoughts of Plato are under the character of Socrates, but this is just a naive mistake, because each dialogue is situated in a very deliberated dramathic scene like also the characters that dialogue with Socrates, because both are in relation with the subject that appears in the Dialogue so in that way the text is able to express it implicitly and explicitly (while the rest of most writed philosophy only pretends to express itself in a explicit way; that's why it is always imperfect). In a Dialogue like the Phaedro and also in the VII letter (and the specialists are mostly agree about its authenticity) we can see the very deep understanding of Plato about the implications of trying to write philisophy.
    So, in a way, maybe it can be clear that some of the thoughts of the Dialogues are part of the real thoughts of Plato, but we can not be sure at all, especially when in the VII letter he says that it is not apropiatte for a serious philosopher to write his real thoughts. So maybe it would be better to talk about Plato's philosophy with a little more caution.

  • Emperor Of Man
    Emperor Of Man 2 месяца назад

    4:25
    Neville Goddard
    (1948)
    Alan Watts
    (1967)

  • Jack Ash
    Jack Ash 2 месяца назад

    Plato's decision of society in three groups sounds lot like the cast system in Hinduism.

  • Yasser Pundaodaya
    Yasser Pundaodaya 2 месяца назад

    2:18: savagery at its finest

  • FortegoLite
    FortegoLite 2 месяца назад

    0:44 The tripartite and winged soul mythology made the cut as a "good" idea?

  • Grace Walker
    Grace Walker 2 месяца назад

    Was that a matrix reference I saw? 1:42

  • Al Kabab
    Al Kabab 2 месяца назад

    The guy from thug notes should narrate one of these videos.

  • PETER PYCH
    PETER PYCH 3 месяца назад

    Plato and Cher! ..Plato orthopedic sandals! Famous Plato pizza! 1,2,3,Plato,5,6.....new jersey,New York, new plato!

  • Luke Skywalker
    Luke Skywalker 3 месяца назад +2

    Plato: Instead of thinking about stuff, why not we think about thinking about stuff

  • MARILENE MAMACLAY
    MARILENE MAMACLAY 3 месяца назад

    Even the most intelligent human was not perfect

  • Gen Gaming
    Gen Gaming 3 месяца назад

    In the philippines plato is just a plate

  • Stew-A-Rew
    Stew-A-Rew 3 месяца назад +5

    *rubs my leg*
    Person:What are you doing?
    Me:I'm pregnant
    Person:Oh congrats

  • Memento Mori
    Memento Mori 3 месяца назад

    I don't see how plato's idea of the philosopher king is amongst the best when the noble lie is amongst the worst.

  • Style
    Style 3 месяца назад

    woman=Children :)

  • QuickMalcolm
    QuickMalcolm 3 месяца назад

    HEY CHECK OUT THIS NEAT HUMAN I FOUND 🍗

  • Artemio Pacheco
    Artemio Pacheco 3 месяца назад

    PLATO WAS BASED ASF

  • Loyal Stan Of IZ*ONE and a WIZ*ONE
    Loyal Stan Of IZ*ONE and a WIZ*ONE 3 месяца назад

    So Philosopher is a plate?

  • Sablon76
    Sablon76 3 месяца назад

    The noble lie is and isnt the propaganda of the cabal. But instead of a time to come. The nobel lie being religion and where it goes and what it will be used for in order to push mankind forwards as all religions become one. That is why its called nobel. The reasoning being that the lie must be told in order to save the pain of the truth to the many.

  • Gustavo Rehermann
    Gustavo Rehermann 3 месяца назад

    "Ideal RUclip channel." Wait, what? That exists?!
    No wonder we can only see that in the world of forms.

  • Ethan Gold
    Ethan Gold 3 месяца назад

    the thing is, Plato never spoke for himself. Whenever some wisecrack says "Plato argued", it becomes obvious that that person hasn't read any of Plato seriously.

  • aamrhz _
    aamrhz _ 3 месяца назад

    i hate plato bcs everytime when i play this my phone will get stuck only in this app

  • Peter Spaulding
    Peter Spaulding 3 месяца назад

    This is just a government trick to try to get us to think that we're not all birds.

  • Churck
    Churck 3 месяца назад

    Plato DESTROYS Aristote supporters with LOGIC and FACTS

  • fred kelly
    fred kelly 4 месяца назад

    As with philosophy itself. I saw no value in that video.

  • 237Memes
    237Memes 4 месяца назад

    Let's not forget, Diogenes was homeless

  • P I L O S O P A U L
    P I L O S O P A U L 4 месяца назад

    People are taking the 'Noble Lie' criticism out of context all the time against Plato.
    Read it along the context of the whole book,
    "is it not better to tell the children the false FIRST?"
    is not the same as
    "is it not better to tell the children the false ONLY?"
    The former being the original so-called 'Noble Lie'

  • SORA
    SORA 4 месяца назад

    The noble lie is similar in essence to the Hindu Varnashrama system which catagorizes people as workers (shudras), warriors (ksattryas), intellectuals (brahmins), and merchants (vaesya). It is based on cycles of mentality and not on occupation. Obama is a shudra, Trump is a vaesya, Eisenhower was a ksattriya. Intellectual leaders are rare and Plato likened this to gold which is also rare. Society should raise more intellectual-leaders to ensure justice and prosperity

  • badgescops1
    badgescops1 4 месяца назад

    Wester philpshopy and values are most influinced by iranian profet zoraster

  • Andreus Triant
    Andreus Triant 4 месяца назад

    The child inside the whom is alive and human

  • SDK
    SDK 4 месяца назад

    I checked my speakers for 5 seconds.

  • M.A. R
    M.A. R 4 месяца назад

    Oh yes. I’ve got a headache, so clearly my *living womb* has moved about my body. I can’t believe that I didn’t think of that! *IM SUCH A CHILD!*
    ~me, yelling at “one of the most intelligent individuals of the human race”.

  • 36 maximilianmus
    36 maximilianmus 4 месяца назад

    I think the "noble lie " is actually a good thing .after all the world rulers are still using it

  • Turk Turkic
    Turk Turkic 4 месяца назад

    The modern world sees Greek civilisation but does miss the other 2 afther the Greek Civilization came.
    Our modern day is build on 3 civilisations and there technology and science...

  • Ocean Man
    Ocean Man 4 месяца назад

    "Platonculardan nefret ediyorum."
    -Geekyapar Kullanıcısı

  • BLVXK GXLD
    BLVXK GXLD 4 месяца назад

    There was no plato

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    Joshua Adam Stith AKA YouTube Librarian 4 месяца назад

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  • left alt
    left alt 4 месяца назад

    Idea's idea needs to be considered.

  • Kaushik Das
    Kaushik Das 4 месяца назад

    Did I see 'Hobbes'..

  • Michael Du
    Michael Du 4 месяца назад

    Where did the TED-Ed music go (for intro and outro)? *D:*

  • August Mango
    August Mango 4 месяца назад

    It would be good if you would do on his English criticism because that is also a very important topic. Anyhow great video, Thank you.

  • thobenj
    thobenj 4 месяца назад

    Good Matrix reference!

  • Steven Wertyuiooo
    Steven Wertyuiooo 5 месяцев назад +1

    Plato is actually propably the third best philoshopher of his century...(His teacher Socrates and his student Aristotle were bigger philoshophers). Some would argue that Plato was a bit too arrogant during times. But he surely is in top5 of the best philoshophers ever!!

  • Ahn Saehyun
    Ahn Saehyun 5 месяцев назад

    I'm sick of him and Aristotle, I always see their names on every lesson in our social science classes 😂

  • Iris Trismegistus
    Iris Trismegistus 5 месяцев назад

    To put Plato's concept of the forms in DBZ terms - there is a super saiyan form for everything. Yes. Even you can be a super saiyan!

  • Kevin Marren
    Kevin Marren 5 месяцев назад

    This video completely misses that Plato never says anything. All of these ideas are expressed, sometimes as jokes, by characters in dialogues, i.e., for literary effect.
    I'm sorry to anyone who watched this.

  • That One Guy
    That One Guy 5 месяцев назад

    Diogenes best

  • Mas Gonderawi
    Mas Gonderawi 5 месяцев назад

    What an utterly pathetic video. Plato's arguments about the _philosopher-king_ and the _noble lie_ is are perfectly great ideas. Wisecrack is just saying BS.

  • Ricardo H. Manjarrez
    Ricardo H. Manjarrez 5 месяцев назад

    This sucks. The ideal forms are not of every thing. "Ideal RUclip channel". Awful. Go and read Plato...

  • Rafael Gasparello
    Rafael Gasparello 5 месяцев назад

    Plato and others were participants of the mysteries of eleusis drinking psycadelics. Thats how he saw the world of forms. Reading Plato will not make you understand metaphysics, having Mushrooms, LSD, Ayaushasca... will show you the world of forms and much more. Check Michael Polland book How to Change mind.

  • Scientin
    Scientin 5 месяцев назад

    I feel like the whole "featherless biped" thing could be interpreted symbolically. One of humanity's most distinctive features is our freedom of choice, that we can choose to become more (or less) than our base instincts dictate. Traditionally, freedom is associated with birds due to their ability of flight, and they were considered closer to the heavens where the gods resided. In that case, it's possible humans are featherless bipeds not in the literal sense, but in the idea that we can come close to the heavens, but not ever truly reach it.

  • Yato Kun
    Yato Kun 5 месяцев назад

    “featherless biped”
    diogenes: lol wut

  • That One Guy
    That One Guy 5 месяцев назад

    Diogenes was the real OG philosopher

  • Liping Rahman
    Liping Rahman 5 месяцев назад

    Plato's theory of the forms is a good example of putting the cart before the horse. What Plato thought were the perfect form of, or idea of a thing, is in truth nothing more than a crude approximation that we humans make in order to get some handle of the complexity of real world. Plato, for example, could not grasp the nuances, complexities, power plays, and dynamism of Athenian democracy so he created a crude approximation that he called his ideal city in The Republic. He did the same thing for art, the world, people, and even movement. He did not have the mental power to understand them so made these simplified models and thought those models were more real than the complex world around him. This was true for most philosophers, they have not the wits to understand the actual world so the create these sophistries as a pathetic compensation at the same time they mock real persons of learning like scientists who are really trying to get a grasp of the complexities of this world.

  • Victor Molina
    Victor Molina 5 месяцев назад

    Anxiety is when you never hear the TED-ED intro in a TED-ED video.

  • tony younan
    tony younan 5 месяцев назад

    What about his idea of the Soul. The Rational, the appetitive and the spirited.

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    CIA 5 месяцев назад

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