What everyone missed re: Jorge Masvidal vs Darren Till…

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    Chael Sonnen recaps Jorge Masvidal vs Darren Till at UFC London on this episode of Beyond the Fight.
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  • MIKE TRINH
    MIKE TRINH 13 days ago

    What happened to you n Jon jones

  • Cesar Gomringer
    Cesar Gomringer 28 days ago

    Chael commenting
    Style is too old bro sometimes boring ..

  • robert punu
    robert punu Month ago

    what's that saying Chael? oh, I know, its ''hindsight is 20/20.'' know what I mean.

  • Steve Shroder
    Steve Shroder Month ago

    cormier is the goat. Brock gets shot.

  • seal869
    seal869 2 months ago

    Is this pure trolling? There is no super heavyweight class in pro boxing. If there were, monsters like Tyson Fury, Lennox Lewis, Anthony Joshua, Wladimir Klitschko, etc. would be in it... but those are just heavyweights. And the reason cruiserweights aren't spoiling to fight those guys is... size definitely fucking matters in striking, dude. Nobody thinks heavyweights are actually the best fighters. The compliments paid to Ali were things like "he fights like a welterweight." Same in wrestling; everybody knows the most explosive athletes are at the lower weights. But that doesn't mean those dudes can actually beat bigger guys head to head. That's why we talk about "pound for pound" in weight class sports. Sure, mass CAN slow you down. But it can also make you harder to unbalance, put a little more heft behind your punches, lets you put more pressure in the clinch, and most of all it often corresponds to greater range. Meanwhile a slick BJJ practitioner can catch a monster in a triangle or armbar or w/e.

  • MrDanybe
    MrDanybe 2 months ago

    Forget size, The most obvious point missed by this smug cunt is that when boxers or MMA fighters like Jorge that have very good stand up skills meet the normal MMA fighter who don’t have a background in boxing they out box and normally catch them with that shot, till isn’t a boxer an masvidal near enough is, so going toe toe till was always going to come unstuck.

  • ramsy420
    ramsy420 2 months ago

    Chael is absolutely making brilliant points here. He is way ahead of journalism with his objectivity

  • mikeyboy
    mikeyboy 3 months ago

    Chanel never cared about 15 lbs because he was juiced for every fight

  • Kevbean
    Kevbean 3 months ago

    I went to harrahs and threw 400 on masvidal I knew uncle chael... I knew

  • jimabbitt616
    jimabbitt616 3 months ago

    Tim Sylvia barely made 265

  • - dot
    - dot 3 months ago

    There is no Super Heavyweight professional boxing champion

  • James Barthelemy
    James Barthelemy 3 months ago

    Yea, but I know what time it is.

  • slim jim
    slim jim 3 months ago

    Wussified?

  • daDaffmeistah
    daDaffmeistah 3 months ago

    It always favors the smaller guy, except Jon Jones cause he throws singles strikes so shorter fighters can't counter him.

  • Larry Lubbert
    Larry Lubbert 3 months ago

    U are right. It's in you. It does hurt to fight.

  • Damon Hargrave
    Damon Hargrave 3 months ago

    This just isn't true. Size is almost always better until the point of demonising returns, which is only a factor in the heavyweight division and up.. Assuming a good skill set and movement (which till obviously has) size is a benefit. That's the reason we have divisions. The only advantage smaller guys have in their division is that they have forward pressure styles and are always trying to close the distance. It looks good when you're coming forward, while the taller guy will always be using his reach and keeping the distance, resulting in backward movement more often. It looks good to the judges and a lot of fans when you're the guy "going after" the other. Length is always a factor. How many champions in history are short for their division vs how many are tall for the division? Tall champs are much more common than short.

  • Toby Holland
    Toby Holland 3 months ago

    8:00 I wonder if Chael drops little mistakes into his commentary on purpose. I think it's entirely possible. His second opponent was Jason Miller, and he then fought DAN Miller in his first UFC fight, at the MGM, not at the Hard Rock. He's also had 48 fights, not 45. Can't find Pat Healy listed anywhere on Chris Leben's page either.
    I love this man, he's a brilliant troll. Gets me every time ;)

    EDIT - Just considered that some amateur fights might not be listed on Wikipedia or Sherdog. I've had a few fights and they're on Sherdog. But my friend had a pro MMA fight in Taiwan that wasn't listed. So perhaps Chael did fight Dan Miller but the fight wasn't recognized on Sherdog/other outlets.

  • Toby Holland
    Toby Holland 3 months ago

    3:25 - Tim Sylvia was at the 265 limit, was he not?

    • Toby Holland
      Toby Holland 3 months ago

      @PuffTheMagicHobo Neither of them were champion though. Chael said that Brock is the only UFC HW champ that had to cut weight, but I think Tim S. also met those criteria.

    • PuffTheMagicHobo
      PuffTheMagicHobo 3 months ago

      Pretty sure Lewis and/or Nnganou have cut as well

  • 唐淼
    唐淼 3 months ago

    +LINE:lq5522 喝茶約妹 解決你的需要

  • dave
    dave 3 months ago

    Whoa Chael son. Ali was 230-245 in his prime. 198 was when he was very young starting as a heavyweight. You let yourself down with your lack of boxing knowledge. Also Till cheated his way to the top and the two times he has made weight he has lost. The rest of the time he has come on far heavy than his opponent and won on that advantage. Size does matter, especially at the lower to middle weights.

  • dave
    dave 3 months ago

    Maxvidal is a first cousin to the Diaz brothers.

  • Nick Giakas
    Nick Giakas 4 months ago

    chael straight fucking up my betting odds -_-

  • subsoil007
    subsoil007 4 months ago

    If you thought this before the fight .. did you do a video on it ? Hindsight is a great thing

  • MR
    MR 4 months ago +1

    that's ridiculous jail because why do people drop down 20 pounds below their weight class that's right cuz there's a bigger fighter

    • joeyripswell
      joeyripswell 3 months ago

      best comment/point of the lot of us. weight cut indeed

  • Charles Vickery
    Charles Vickery 4 months ago

    Didn't Carwin have an interim title at the limit?

  • Association of Free People

    Till doesn’t move. His chin was hanging out there all night. The shot that brutalized him was an expensive education about head movement and defense.

  • brett warren
    brett warren 4 months ago

    Tim Sylvia had to cut to 265, I think, but we all know that his ass was taking EVERYTHING in the mf god damn book!! That and he’s fucking 6’9” fuckin tall!

  • Izumabakumatsu
    Izumabakumatsu 4 months ago

    I can't even imagine how big/ muscular/ fat a boxer needs to be for them to be 400pounds. Damn. I'm around pounds at 6 feet and already I feel slow as hell.

  • Danny from the beer store

    Why are you yelling at me ? Jeezus peezus ! Gosh !

  • Matt Crawford
    Matt Crawford 4 months ago

    So a Floyd Mayweather beats a Mike Tyson if both in their prime??? ur off ur head on this one mate, spot on 99% of the time though so u get a pass.. ;)

  • Colby Chavez
    Colby Chavez 4 months ago

    Chael is wild 😂 the enthusiasm is somethin Else , for every little thing too hahaha

  • Earl Green
    Earl Green 4 months ago

    LIMITED BY LOGIC(?) Joshua 10:12-15
    We would never think of ordering the sun and moon to stand still today. We have no need to, we don’t have the faith to, we are filled with too much logic and science to. The latter reason is the most dangerous of the three! Scientists say the earth revolves around the sun, not the other way round (true) and that if the earth, which is spinning at approximately 1,000 miles per hour or 1600 km/hr, suddenly stops, we would all go flying off into outer space! When we are limited by logic we forget who is constantly in control, who makes the rules and can break the rules. No weapon, limitation, problem, circumstance or condition is too great for JESUS. Ask Him, if He will, He will do it.

    • Earl Green
      Earl Green 3 months ago

      @TheTimbalanders The wheat and the weeds have to grow together until the appointed time friend - Matthew 13:24-30

    • TheTimbalanders
      TheTimbalanders 4 months ago

      Can Jesus get rid of Islam please?

  • callmewisdom
    callmewisdom 4 months ago

    Chael is tripping. Every statistic (both in MMA and in street violence) shows, that size is a very important factor that greatly favours the heavier fighter (up to a point of course).

  • Kevin Williams
    Kevin Williams 4 months ago

    This fool is funny and insightful, yeah the dude is right, bigger CAN be better if the guy can use his reach well like Hearns vs Duran, but simply being bigger in boxing is not good vs a better dude... think Mcgregor vs Mayweather....Mayweather is way smaller and way better at boxing than McGregor...bigger alone doesn't make someone better...he's a crazy fool but he's telling the truth....the bright lights don't make the fight...fighters make the fight

  • drunxter g
    drunxter g 4 months ago

    Chael when you cover badass Hispanic fighters your gonna get alot of likes#jorge masvidal,gilbert Melendez,tony Ferguson,the diaz brothers,diego Sanchez

  • Tim the Toothless
    Tim the Toothless 4 months ago

    Masviday vs Aaron Till

  • alexaldana1991
    alexaldana1991 4 months ago

    Did Chael just mix up Mayhem with Dan Miller?

  • Freedom ForAll!
    Freedom ForAll! 4 months ago

    Hidden Camera: Jim Jeffries Exposed

  • il ross
    il ross 4 months ago

    So all the weigh ins are to protect to the bigger guys? This is ridiculous nonsense.

  • Young SauceDripperz
    Young SauceDripperz 4 months ago

    Not always my boy

  • Must.Af.aalik
    Must.Af.aalik 4 months ago

    Talking bullshit again. So why was he fighting middleweight by cutting weight when he should be light heavy??

  • dayvbui
    dayvbui 4 months ago

    Hate to be the guy to say it, but isn't heavyweight in boxing absolute? There is no limit on how big a heavyweight can be, so how can there a super heavyweight boxing class?

  • Nigel Liotta
    Nigel Liotta 4 months ago

    Well... 80 people would be a pretty big crowd for a dog park...

  • JayUppercase
    JayUppercase 4 months ago

    Jesus Chael talks some amount of shite, he would be a perfect politician if he hadn't the dodgy past

  • Sheng Yeh Soo
    Sheng Yeh Soo 4 months ago

    BullSh!t Till was definitely faster than Jorge ... experience win & Jorge don’t get shaken ...

  • evildeadmitch
    evildeadmitch 4 months ago

    Super Heavys are fun to watch.

  • Tramaine Terrance
    Tramaine Terrance 4 months ago

    Hello, Humans. Ice cream melts in the heat and the heat consume the soul. When the soul is gone, aan evil force takes hold. The reality of ice cream creating a dark void in the human body.
    TERRANCE OUT

  • iain*
    iain* 4 months ago

    Chael P Sonnen: biggest arms in West Linn Oregon....... the original G. Love you chael 🤘🤘🤘

  • iain*
    iain* 4 months ago

    Masvidal is a savage. Did the UFC rush till I don't know guys.......

  • luigi velarde
    luigi velarde 4 months ago

    finally im agree with u

  • Rational Guardian
    Rational Guardian 4 months ago +1

    What I see happen constantly is that some UFC fans only know the UFC roster and believe that those fighters are the "elite" of MMA and no other organization has any great fighters on their cards. It's laughable and just goes to show that sheep don't know shit about MMA around the world.

  • En5an3
    En5an3 4 months ago

    damn straight chael

  • FedorMachida Last
    FedorMachida Last 4 months ago

    Chael is the GOAT!

  • mike santini
    mike santini 4 months ago

    Chael you count interum titles as world titles so what about carwin

  • Dave Mieze
    Dave Mieze 4 months ago

    Don’t fuck with Jorge. In the ring, or backstage.

  • Dave Mieze
    Dave Mieze 4 months ago

    Jorge Masvidal. End of story.

  • Sean Alger
    Sean Alger 4 months ago

    Chael always popping up on trending

  • Eddie Garcia
    Eddie Garcia 4 months ago

    Jorge is a beast!

  • Dave Curry
    Dave Curry 4 months ago

    I get your point with the HW division. 170 is a different deal. Tall and long makes a huge difference in standup.

  • Eric Cartman
    Eric Cartman 4 months ago

    #40 on trending

  • Max Moore
    Max Moore 4 months ago

    Casuals said that shit.
    If you know Jorge he was here knuckle in backyards fighting at 185 guys over 200lbs....and winning.
    I knew Jorge was gonna get him

  • Edward Jones
    Edward Jones 4 months ago

    Till top 5 in the world?! WTF

  • jai nayyar
    jai nayyar 4 months ago

    Was dada 5000 cutting weight to fight kimbo at heavyweight?

  • Jazz Buzzard
    Jazz Buzzard 4 months ago

    Ali in his prime was about 210 but i got it

  • Michael Dixon
    Michael Dixon 4 months ago +1

    Boxing analogy about size is nonsense. Wlad and Vitali dominated heavyweight due to size. Lewis dominated heavyweight due to size. Even now Wilder 6'7", Fury 6'9", Joshua 6'6". Smaller fighters for 15-20 years haven't got close to being top level heavyweights.

  • Chris Frederiksen
    Chris Frederiksen 4 months ago

    Ayy Chaels on trending

  • ajsilva78
    ajsilva78 4 months ago

    Cael looks the Godfather

  • david bell
    david bell 4 months ago

    CHAEL SONNEN IS BY FAR THE MOST INTELLIGENT PERSON IN THE FIGHT GAME.

  • TheLynxer
    TheLynxer 4 months ago

    Shane Carwin was 265 lbs when he won the Interim Heavyweight Title against Frank Mir, who was also 265 lbs in that fight. But aside from Lesnar, I don't think there's ever been an undisputed heavyweight champ to max out in weight.

  • JBOM9000
    JBOM9000 4 months ago

    Dude how long are you going to talk about that fight?

  • Mibsam Malik
    Mibsam Malik 4 months ago

    this fools crazy if a guys bigger and longer they have an advantage already in reach

  • Beastly Rivers
    Beastly Rivers 4 months ago

    Tim Silvia

  • Broken Native
    Broken Native 4 months ago

    I don’t think size only matters when grappling.. for example look at Fedor throwing giants about like Barbie dolls.

  • Peter K
    Peter K 4 months ago

    Been saying pretty much the same thing all along. Guys like Masvidal have been in the game for ages, dude had his first pro fight way back in 2003 FFS. All those years in the octagon pay off, it's not just about skill and talent. But the UFC press machine likes hyping these upcoming guys, with perfect, shiny, padded records to get those PPV's in. So when I was talking with people about this fight they were like "loool, Masvidal's been out for ages and he has a record of 32-12, he's gonna get smoked". Bruh, first of all, check out the names on that record, then consider that when you've been in the octagon for almost two decade,s you're bound to take a few L's.

    Yeah, people are just too fixated on records and money fights these days, but the old-school fighters like Masvidal and Sonnen for that matter, come from an era where that shit wasn't as important and people just came to fight. That's the real difference and I think Masvidal vs Till demonstrated that clash of generations perfectly.

  • Cody Roden
    Cody Roden 4 months ago

    Man I felt like I was listening to Dave Ramsey the Seriousness and Tone Chael Speaks with makes you shut up and listen. Love it lol

  • Richard Dunmire
    Richard Dunmire 4 months ago

    Ummm Conor in the 145 division
    Smoked all smaller guys. The list goes on.

  • Kill3r Killz
    Kill3r Killz 4 months ago

    Masvidal vs Woodley

  • andrew packard
    andrew packard 4 months ago

    Wrong Chael!!! lol Wonderboy lost to Till because of size. Cerrone got destroyed by Till because of size. Masvidal could have one of the best chin's in MMA and weathered the storm and then took him out. To prove your point you would have to say that if you fought a smaller version of yourself, in stand up, that you would be at a disadvantage. Now that I think about it, you may indeed say that just to prove your delusional point lol.

  • MannElite
    MannElite 4 months ago

    I predicted Masvidal to K.O. Till in the 1st or 2nd...

  • Spider Mink
    Spider Mink 4 months ago

    Let's not pretend Till wasn't winning the fight before getting clipped. That's the fight game. Till is still a beast.

  • Brian Swarbrigg
    Brian Swarbrigg 4 months ago

    Did everyone say masvidal was to small ?? Don’t think so . “What everything missed” ah thanks Chael we are all dumbasses 😂😂😂 he always thinks he knows more than everyone

  • Sean Prana
    Sean Prana 4 months ago

    The fire was stomped out by Chael

  • Kenneth Bailey
    Kenneth Bailey 4 months ago

    Goes to paint store and when they ask what color are you looking for sir? Cheap answers back “SHIT” will work just fine !

  • adam withers
    adam withers 4 months ago

    i think carwin was 265, overeem when he was on juice was 265

  • mitchell dring
    mitchell dring 4 months ago

    Chael,you must understand.....Only you and a handful of other americans ( Including Trump) speak an iota of sense.Your undeveloped and lesser evolved minds dont see what the rest of us do

  • English JD
    English JD 4 months ago

    Yeah brock , and Shane Carwin

  • Pawel Sych
    Pawel Sych 4 months ago

    Size doesnt give you advantage in standup fight? What is he talking about? So why there is so many divisions in boxing? Watch Spence vs Garcia. Or Tyson vs Lewis.

  • Nate Hartsell
    Nate Hartsell 4 months ago

    Casting Couch Chael

  • LawyerServiceDirect dotCOM

    Askeren out striked Robbie too

  • Dawood Bartlett
    Dawood Bartlett 4 months ago

    You so right ,Chael.....👍

  • Solaxer
    Solaxer 4 months ago

    And people wanna say Rory lost to Moose because of size alone

  • Dennis De Vera
    Dennis De Vera 4 months ago

    wrong

  • Sam Smith
    Sam Smith 4 months ago +1

    #FrancisNgannou

  • David
    David 4 months ago

    So a smaller guy has an advantage over a bigger guy if it is a stand up fight?
    That's bollocks. May they be a little faster but what about the strength! And the reach!

  • Mike Conrad
    Mike Conrad 4 months ago

    Should of said this before the fight easy to say after

  • First Name Last Name
    First Name Last Name 4 months ago

    Saying fighters don't care about 15 pounds, but Till cares enough to put himself through a painful weight cut

  • Scara Mouche
    Scara Mouche 4 months ago

    99% of the time the bigger dude wins.

  • Anush Gopalakrishnan
    Anush Gopalakrishnan 4 months ago

    I love how Chael can always come up with the perfect explanation after the fact. Hindsight is 20/20 after all

  • Bearded1 YT
    Bearded1 YT 4 months ago

    Never forget, Chael called it, after the fact.

  • Blank
    Blank 4 months ago +6

    Chael there is no super heavyweight divison in profesional boxing thats why no one talks about it. Super heavyweight only exists in amateur competition and is merely the equivalent of the heavyweight division in pro boxing.

    • Blank
      Blank 4 months ago

      yea it kinda tilted me chael should stick to mma where he knows what he's talking about

    • Les Chino
      Les Chino 4 months ago

      Blank I was just about to type this glad I see your comment first he’s spouting shite valuev big hairy Russian bastard of a man was about 800lbs and 9ft tall still fought at heavyweight to be fair not much head movement tho