Talking Cars with Consumer Reports #111: Toyota C-HR and Alfa Romeo Giulia

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  • Опубликовано: 15 мар 2017
  • Toyota's all-new subcompact SUV the C-HR visits our test track and we share our first impressions. We also discuss our new Alfa Romeo Giulia and field viewer questions about new car buying and advanced safety systems.
    2018 Toyota C-HR Quick Drive: www.consumerreports.org/video/view/cars/auto-test-track/5350954665001/2018-toyota-c-hr-quick-drive/
    2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Joins the Sport Sedan Race: www.consumerreports.org/alfa-romeo/2017-alfa-romeo-giulia-sedan-new-york/
    2018 Honda Odyssey Preview: www.consumerreports.org/video/view/cars/auto-test-track/5276022014001/2018-honda-odyssey-preview/
    Ford Flex 2013-2015 Road Test: www.consumerreports.org/video/view/cars/auto-test-track/1826236109001/ford-flex-2013-2015-road-test/
    2017 Honda Ridgeline Quick Drive: www.consumerreports.org/video/view/cars/auto-test-track/4899640372001/2017-honda-ridgeline-quick-drive/
    Chrysler Pacifica Redefines the Minivan: www.consumerreports.org/video/view/cars/news/4837671114001/chrysler-pacifica-redefines-the-minivan/

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Комментарии • 162

  • Dirkadirka Dirkadirka
    Dirkadirka Dirkadirka Месяц назад +1

    Dodged a bullet and passed on the C-HR and purchased the Hyundai Kona Limited instead!

  • Go MGTOW
    Go MGTOW 5 месяцев назад

    To anyone who wants a small Toyota hatchback: Buy a Toyota Corolla iM (Corolla hatchback) over the Toyota C-HR, and you get much better fuel economy (36 vs 31) and much better all-around visibility. www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=38679&id=39346

  • Go MGTOW
    Go MGTOW 5 месяцев назад

    Such a HORRIBLE design = no visibility at all ! Good luck trying to sell any of these things at all Toyota.

    • roguedogx
      roguedogx 4 месяца назад

      Go MGTOW it's a Toyota, they will move a few. Just not as many as they could have.

  • iLiketigerz101
    iLiketigerz101 5 месяцев назад

    It should be called Mario talk. Cause Mario is an Italian who was invented by Japanese. So CR is talking about a Toyota and the Romero. Go figure.

  • Amtrak 2523
    Amtrak 2523 6 месяцев назад

    Watching these so called automotive experts is painful. Just about every car they rate is terrible. Gabe is the worst of the bunch. He seems to dislike every American vehicle and even some foreign ones. There is no perfect car. One size does not fit all. Most Americans buy cars because of need and price. Most of us can’t spend $50,000 on a vehicle. My suggestion to people who want to buy a car or suv is to watch RUclip and see other reviews that are made by real people and on sites like Test Driven T.V., TFL Car, Alex On Auto’s and some other sites that are out there. Consumer Reports is just one very small site for car reviews. Yes, you should watch them but give the other sites a view as well. Buy what you can afford and buy what you like. If you are worried about reliability, bargain with your dealer for a extended warranty. You can find good extended warranties online from reputable companies for a great price as well. To sum it up, do your homework when buying a new or used vehicle. Don’t choose your next car based solely on Consumer Reports alone.

  • ShockinglyBleh
    ShockinglyBleh 10 месяцев назад

    3:35 I'm sorry but the compliant about the handle is a little retarded, they act like the Toyota C-HR is the only one the does this. I guess they have never looked at the backs doors for a Nissan Juke, or a Honda HRV, or Hyundai Veloster...

  • thiinkerca
    thiinkerca 11 месяцев назад

    This show is not the same without Tom mutchler, His sense of humour and hosting skills sorely missed.

  • Ben
    Ben Год назад

    Why do you waste your time and resources on any Italian vehicle? Garbage yesterday, garbage today, garbage tomorrow...

  • MR Dot1
    MR Dot1 Год назад

    i assume toyota did not bring the 1.8 Hybrid verson to the US cuz americans love big and powerfull engines , so they grought the 2.0 144 hp gasoline version, what would people think about an 1.8 hybrid that has only 122hp which is good enough for the city, but for overtake manuevers above 60mp is not an ideal car cuz the acceleration gets lakluster..

  • MR Dot1
    MR Dot1 Год назад

    why people getting to the kids cant reach it phrase .. when toyota clearly market it to under 30 people...

  • Trades46
    Trades46 Год назад

    Alfa Romeo has historically been terrible at reliability. However they are some of the cars with more personality in the sea of cars you can mistake for anything by covering its badge on the front & steering wheel.
    In short, nothing really changed; Alfa is still very much Alfa, right down to their driving experience & quirks.

  • Ric Vieira
    Ric Vieira Год назад

    So much whingeing for goodness sake!
    "sun visor, heated seats, knobs", license plate... what's next, cup holder?
    Seriously, not an issue (specially on a "so sporty car")!
    Yanks will never get a proper sports car,! (- it's about the handling,
    the reaction, quick shifts etc.) and should just stay at the Escalade or Suburban level (and keep your maroon pants too)!
    Also, the Australian (front) license plate is same as in US, but here there's no issues mounting it! - Why are americans so dumb?
    Far more serious flaw, is the fact american cars don't even do corners!

  • sergh8605
    sergh8605 Год назад

    I like the C-HR, sad no moonroof, hope it come later. I wish they had done a moonroof like on the Nissan that was in the middle.

  • Beach Lovin
    Beach Lovin Год назад

    The GMC brand has a really simple and straight forward climate controls+cruise controls+radio controls. My previous vehicles where Ford and VW, the big buttons and big nobs are a definite plus in my current GMC Canyon.

  • T T
    T T Год назад

    I was thinking that these three guys are the best for talking cars. Hope they stick with this lineup.

  • Talons X
    Talons X Год назад

    Everyone wears blue and dark colors, he has the ballz to break out of conformity, why does ones joy depend on someone's else's lack of conformity? It's the same for cars, or anything else.

  • Jeff Engelhardt
    Jeff Engelhardt Год назад

    Question for your next show, since we're in the world of small SUVs: My '03 Honda Element has done me incredibly well over the years. It's time for it to retire to that great used car lot in the sky, though, and I'm struggling with its replacement.
    My must-haves are AWD (or 4WD), decent ground clearance, above average reliability, a decent amount of cargo space, decent fuel economy, a more powerful engine, and something that doesn't remotely resemble the average small to mid-size SUV (e.g. CR-V, Rav-4, etc.), which I hate.
    Accepting that the only thing these days resembling the Element's monstrous, bulletproof interior is a truck bed I'm leaning wagon -- maybe a Volvo XC70, V60 XC, or an Audi Allroad. Thoughts?

  • monzx3
    monzx3 Год назад

    In many ways I think all these technological advances in today's cars are bad for people. People get spoiled and lazy. For instance, with GPS folks just don't wanna bother to learn their way around even in their own home town! Parallel parking? A lost art I say. I'm not anti-technology but there should be a limit to everything.

  • monzx3
    monzx3 Год назад

    Dude, what's up with that outfit!

  • Robert Montgomery
    Robert Montgomery Год назад

    You use side mirrors to merge. Learn how to set your mirrors

  • Richard DuBois
    Richard DuBois Год назад

    Toyota C-HR. Fantastic look ! (and I'm a 70 yo) Poor visibility out the back. No manual transmission available in the USA. And they want us to pay extra for many safety features I just don't want. Not priced comparably with it's competitors.
    Alfa. It's gonna be like a Vette. Owners will rave about it, despite it's being in the shop often. It's for those who love a real driving experience. It's not an appliance. The majority of Consumer Reports readers just don't get that and never will.

  • Joe Hammond
    Joe Hammond Год назад +2

    Toyota needed a seriously ugly car to compete with the Juke. Aztek?

  • Eugenio A.
    Eugenio A. Год назад

    carry proves of what you find wrong in cars, otherwise people could think you are PAID to discredit competitors' products.

  • Cruz er
    Cruz er Год назад

    Mike makes a lot of sense with regards to car design. Gabe is arguing nonsense. It's a self-fulfilling, self-perpetuating escalation. The car makers create the problems and distractions so they can "solve" them with more "features". Feeding into the consumer mentality is not advocating in the best interest of the buyers. One the one hand you can say "this is reality." but then CR constantly advocates against things automakers do in the buyers' best interest. So, you can't argue out of both sides and sound credible. Car makers are pushing gadgets and software. What happens when that stuff breaks and fails? You have a lot of disposable vehicles floating around. The mentality just feeds into the disposable culture and teaches the auto buying public to do the same.

  • cadsux
    cadsux Год назад

    Of course Toyota was late to the game. Just look at the Lexus NX. Everyone else had a turbo 4 cylinder crossover years before.

  • Kris Mier
    Kris Mier Год назад

    minivans? what about KIA Sedona?

  • Evan K
    Evan K Год назад

    You forgot to mention/bash the Nissan Quest in the minivan topic! :-)

  • Keye T
    Keye T Год назад

    Check Engine Light on a NEW CAR? TRASHH... that was a car that they gave you instead of your normal secret shop yall do and y'all don't want to mark that on the reliability?? just due to the fact that it should've been perfect since they were expecting you this time... and the powertrain on that CHR is nowhere near exciting they could've offered a the turbo motor from the IS

  • Blake Swan
    Blake Swan Год назад

    wow is that Ellington about the Alfa

  • Blake Swan
    Blake Swan Год назад +1

    sorry the CHR is awful especially for a new entry. Fail

  • Inverter222
    Inverter222 Год назад +2

    Radio? Who listens to the radio and manually tunes stations? I can't even remember the last car I was in that I tuned a station.
    It's bizarre for CR to keep demanding a tuning knob. It's unsafe compared to the wheel controls and voice activation system.
    But Tom's Durango....now I bet THAT has a tuning knob.,

    • ShockinglyBleh
      ShockinglyBleh 10 месяцев назад

      Turning knobs are "Unsafe"? You mean those devices that have been in cars for 87 years are now magically unsafe in the year 2017? Lol

    • snakerb
      snakerb Год назад +1

      Inverter222 I kinda agree with CR. I drive many different types of vehicles for work and having a tuning knob vs tapping on the screen is annoying and unsafe, but then that's what presets are for. If I could only have one I'd take a volume knob over a tuning knob.

    • Inverter222
      Inverter222 Год назад

      fatboy19831 English not your first language?

  • Robert Montgomery
    Robert Montgomery Год назад +1

    Veloster

    • Right Lane Hog
      Right Lane Hog Год назад +3

      Funny you should mention that. Today at the car show the C-HR was parked about 50 feet from a Veloster and the similarities were uncanny . The both have utterly USELESS second row windows .

  • Robert Montgomery
    Robert Montgomery Год назад

    Velodter ?

  • Dave Travels
    Dave Travels Год назад

    I don't buy the Scion excuse. The C-HR was designed for Europe, where Scion never existed. The C-HR offers a wide variety of options, including nicer interior color combinations in Europe. Perhaps the argument relates to pricing structure, still the price difference is negligible, you have to remember that prices in Europe include VAT. A fully loaded Hybrid C-HR stickers for 28k Euro w/o VAT but dealers are currently offering a 17% discount, so it can actually be had for ~24k Euro w/o VAT or ~26k USD, slightly more expensive, but not that much of difference especially considering that it has a hybrid powertrain. A turbo-AWD model is $500 less.

  • Inverter222
    Inverter222 Год назад

    Gabe, uhhh really needs, to uhhhh, try to, uhhhh, speak without, uhhh, uhhhh.

  • Paul Connolly
    Paul Connolly Год назад

    Gabe @ 21:00...well said!

  • 10tenman10
    10tenman10 Год назад

    Wish they would talk SUV SUV SUV. I almost don't care about anything else these days.

  • Matt P
    Matt P Год назад +1

    Where's Tom???

  • Joe Wilder
    Joe Wilder Год назад

    Do you know of any statistics that show where collision avoidance systems are preventing accidents?

    • Richard DuBois
      Richard DuBois Год назад

      I"m quite sure they're gonna cause more rear end collisions. The idiots just have not figured that into the equation so far.

  • elton john
    elton john Год назад

    Another reason to favour the Ford Flex is that in two years, they're down to half of their original price. If this person wants to keep costs down, an EcoBoost Flex may be a good option.

    • elton john
      elton john Год назад

      I agree with you, but the savings in purchase price may make up for it. The Odyssey is not an entirely reliable machine either.

    • fatboy19831
      fatboy19831 Год назад +2

      Not for long term reliability.

  • elton john
    elton john Год назад +2

    I'm not sure about Jon's disco pants.

  • toyotaprius79
    toyotaprius79 Год назад

    Do you guys know why Toyota hasn't offered a hybrid version (basically from the Prius) of the C-HR? Seems like a goof.
    In the EU, or Ireland at least, the clear majority of new C-HRs have the little HSD badge on them. I rarely see the 1.2l or anything 'non-HSD' that are optioned for it. That's odd given how the US is much warmer to hybrids.

    • Right Lane Hog
      Right Lane Hog Год назад

      Happy St. Patrick's Day. Get your hands on a manual with the surprisingly dynamic 1.2 liter engine to experience the ultimate level of C-HR performance. At least that's what I read in all the European reviews.

  • James Wheaton
    James Wheaton Год назад +1

    Not missing Tom, you three are doing a good job!

  • Lukas Trapp
    Lukas Trapp Год назад +2

    bring back tom !

  • headcas620
    headcas620 Год назад

    The CHR is shit. It's not an suv. It's not even a crossover. It's a hatchback with a higher seating position.

    • White03T4RV82WD
      White03T4RV82WD Год назад +1

      headcas620 doesn't really make it shit.

  • dwilsonjr78
    dwilsonjr78 Год назад +1

    If you need the room, the Honda Odyssey is a great choice. I've driven the Odyssey a few time and just like the guys at CR said, it's actually engaging to drive for a minivan. But in Ford's defense, the Flex does have available AWD if you need it and does stand out more when it comes to looks, but just like the CR guys said, the Odyssey is still a better choice overall when it comes to room and practicality.

  • Karl P
    Karl P Год назад +10

    Fiat/Alfa are physically incapable of producing a reliable car. It's been the same for the last 40 years. That's why they did the walk of shame out of America 20 years ago - no one was buying them. Nothing ever changes at Fiat group. And they've transferred their poor quality to Chrysler as well. FCA is worst for customer satisfaction and reliability according to all surveys.

    • John Mastro
      John Mastro 4 месяца назад

      Karl P The Alfa is a gorgeous car and it’s about the emotions it brings you, it’s not an appliance. If you want a reliable car get an Audi let the real car guys get the Alfa Romeo.

    • Albert S.
      Albert S. 11 месяцев назад

      Marcello Guarro those european cars that are built in europe are a heck or a reliable car compared to the european cars that are being sent to the U.S. the ones sent to the U.S. aren't built in like germany or italy they are built in like mexico or canada to reduce costs but it also reduces reliability and build quality. I see all these europeans saying that their cars are very solid. Sadly they don't sent the ones built in their home to the U.S.

    • guy proulx
      guy proulx Год назад +1

      Marcello Guarro The best strategy for "fixing the issues" is not fixed "from bottom up", the only way to fix it is to start were the problem starts and that is usually at the top

    • 67claudius
      67claudius Год назад +2

      fatboy19831 However, even in Europe is different reliability among Japanese manufacturers, Toyota and Honda are at the top, while Nissan and Mazda are well below. The Japanese are still a point of reference for all car manufacturers, my Toyota corolla verso, 185,000 miles and no mechanical problem.

    • Marcello Guarro
      Marcello Guarro Год назад

      That I agree with. I think FCA could make great strides by fixing the issues that persist through their dealer network from bottom up. There are still too many bad dealers and tactics left over from the Daimler-era.

  • Chris Smith
    Chris Smith Год назад

    Toyota needs to step up their game for the interior. The exterior is just plan ugly.

    • MR Dot1
      MR Dot1 Год назад

      i finde the exterrior awesome.. something wild anf progressive.. not the usuall modest fine elegant lines... so taste is subjective....

  • Kyle houlihan
    Kyle houlihan Год назад +2

    All I want is a small box like my 1996 Rav4 with true 4wd and again SMALL!!! I hate these "small suvs" now a days these things are freaking huge and not easy to park at all. Closest thing I could find to my rav4 now is the first gen Volkswagen Tiguan S 4motion and it's not true 4wd from what I understand. Plus i dont know how reliable that's going to be but small is what I need.

    • fatboy19831
      fatboy19831 Год назад +1

      Matthew B forester is an excellent 230,000 mile car vs Rav 4 300,000 mile. Tugan. 140,000 mile.

    • fatboy19831
      fatboy19831 Год назад +1

      Forester.....Cheap, fuel efficient, reliable, excellent AWD and visibility.

    • Samuel Josiah
      Samuel Josiah Год назад

      Kyle houlihan try they Mazda cx-3

    • Jojo Kim
      Jojo Kim Год назад +1

      plus that 1st gen rav had a 2-door and open top option. Toyota got it right and then went bigger and bulkier and more complicated. I'd also say they peaked on styling (before everything started looking alike).

    • Right Lane Hog
      Right Lane Hog Год назад +1

      The first generation Rav4 was actually about a foot shorter than a Toyota Matrix/Vibe. I know this because I parked my Vibe beside one for several years. The new C-HR is an ergonomic disaster. Good luck trying to find anything equal to a first gen. Rav4 today.

  • john ennis
    john ennis Год назад

    Which company makes the best safety system in the under $30,000 car.

  • Boris Terekidi
    Boris Terekidi Год назад +1

    Completely pointless car. Costs almost as much as a RAV4, but has a look even mother wont love. Ugly, cramped. I'd be shocked if this thing sells very well.

    • adrian coelho
      adrian coelho 17 дней назад

      MR Dot1 well I'm 52 and i get mine in a few weeks. The styling is what attracted me to it. Also the size. I don't need a rav4 sized car because its too big. Don't like the juke, and Kia and Hyundai don't offer this size with auto in Europe. I will never sit in the back seat so don't care how claustrophobic it is. Dont have kids, don't care. Looks way better than most of the boxes on the road. Even the rav4's ass is a mismatch with its face.

    • MR Dot1
      MR Dot1 Год назад

      "but has a look even mother doesn't love" how the f... buys a car for the mother's approval? its marketed to under 30 aged persons.. to whom want a more aggressive progressive look but don't want a 6 cylinder powerhouse...

    • Right Lane Hog
      Right Lane Hog Год назад +4

      Be prepared to be shocked .

  • G S
    G S Год назад

    Tom Mutchler is no longer with Consumer Reports.

    • f181234
      f181234 Год назад

      G S why what happened?

  • HKM _
    HKM _ Год назад +1

    What happened to the two original guys? They were great! :(

  • GBraidi78
    GBraidi78 Год назад

    I think Honda should have a type pad for the stations like Hyundai. I had a 2015 Sonata and it had it but my 2016 Accord doesn't! I hope the 2018 Accord will have it! We will see!

  • Norm T
    Norm T Год назад +1

    Fix It Again Tony?

  • Jake from State Farm
    Jake from State Farm Год назад +3

    "Toyota... invents segments and sub-segments"???
    What?? Like when? Other than the RAV4 -- which was really the first vehicle to be considered a "compact SUV" by today's standards -- what has Toyota done to merit such praise? They didn't even create the hybrid segment. Honda did.

    • roguedogx
      roguedogx 4 месяца назад

      Jake from State Farm yeah I have to admit that comment confused me too.

    • Sam S
      Sam S Год назад

      Yes, and those early specifications all used Subaru technology. It is why Subaru withheld it from them because Toyota wanted to do everything. In the end Subaru forced Toyota to do it their way because Toyota did not have the engineering to do it without doing it all from scratch (the boxer engine was key for them).

    • Ron Shaw
      Ron Shaw Год назад

      Well, although the building is done by Subaru, Toyota penned the design for the car before handing it off to Subaru. Toyota had more to do with it than just the DI and transmissions. Most of the early specifications were done by Toyota.

    • Sam S
      Sam S Год назад

      Ron - that is the claim. However, the facts indicate that Subaru is the key driver behind the car. (1) It is made in a Subaru plant only, in Ōta, Gunma, Japan. (2) It has a boxer engine, a Subaru design but the fuel injection system is Toyota's contribution. In fact, development halted for 6 months because Toyota tried to take control of development from Subaru, which owned the engine design. Once Subaru was given adequate control, development resumed with Subaru running engine development. It does have a Toyota automatic transmission, a Subaru manual transmission. So yes, technically Toyota did contribute to the development - but most of the core of the car came from Subaru technology. That is why there are websites on the internet that describe the situation in how Toyota asked/begged Subaru to leverage their technology to make a better sports car than Toyota could. After a lot of convincing, they agreed. The car does not sell particularly well, with sales peaking the first year at 11,000 vehicles for both the BRZ and Toyota version and recently selling 7000 annually.

    • Ron Shaw
      Ron Shaw Год назад

      Actually, the 86 is not a rebadged Subaru. Both Toyota and Subaru worked jointly on its development. Toyota owns 17% of Subaru, by the way.

  • jimmelay71
    jimmelay71 Год назад +1

    I am loading up on Prozac and Seroquel amidst coming to the realization that Tom may no longer be with CR. I will miss your forced nervous laughter and your tales of your Dodge Durango.

  • pedro fernandez
    pedro fernandez Год назад

    That front tag on the Alfa really kills the look.

  • pedro fernandez
    pedro fernandez Год назад

    Seniors will avoid this thing like Alzheimer's. The xB had great room and visibility, this monster doesn't.

  • john ennis
    john ennis Год назад +7

    where is tom ?

  • 2012bigPerm
    2012bigPerm Год назад +1

    Subaru seems to be able to make safe cars that you can see out of...so it can be done. I think the trends dictate the poor visibility at this point. It may have started as a result of safety with rising belt lines but I don't think it's that way anymore...

  • DevPack
    DevPack Год назад +1

    where is Tom

  • catsspat
    catsspat Год назад +1

    I've nothing against advanced safety systems. In fact, I love adaptive cruise control. However, they should be in addition to, not in replacement of, good visibility. I think Subaru does a pretty good job with good outward visibility.

  • james t Smith
    james t Smith Год назад

    so where is Tom M? you're not ashamed to admit this is a press car, why cant you say where he is? Did he leave to work for a car company?

  • TheAirplaneMaster
    TheAirplaneMaster Год назад +8

    Jon: So, ____, can you tell us something about the _____?
    Other person: Well, it's a nice car and-
    Jon: Yeah, I think that....

    Jon needs to let people answer his question. XD

    • Kevin Bisch
      Kevin Bisch Год назад +1

      Tom was much better..wonder where he is

    • Henry Stone
      Henry Stone Год назад +1

      Yeah, Jon needs to stop cutting people off when they're in mid-sentence, it's really annoying. You could tell that he annoyed Gabe at 9:00 when Gabe was talking about the Alfa and Jon cut him off to say some irrelevant thing and Gabe basically told him to be quiet.

    • MWJ '90
      MWJ '90 Год назад

      TheAirplaneMaster agreed.

  • V. Killmonger
    V. Killmonger Год назад +1

    Toyota RAV2👍

  • J Segal
    J Segal Год назад

    If you go all the way back to the Toyota/GM joint venture, GEO showed a coupe version concept of this car. Long time coming.

  • Linda Jamme
    Linda Jamme Год назад

    I love cars and love listening to you talk about many aspects of cars I would never be able to afford to buy. I wished I worked for Consumer Reports and could take some of these babies for a spin! I own a 2012 Chevrolet Equinox FWD 2LT. I love this car and many of it's features. Most of the problems I've had with the car are electrical. My CD is stuck in the player and Chevrolet said they would have to send the whole radio part to CA to get it out. That's crazy. When I get my next SUV I was thinking between the Equinox, Ford Edge, Toyota RAV4 and Nissan Murano. Any suggestions?

    • Linda Jamme
      Linda Jamme Год назад +2

      White03T4RV82WD Thanks for the information. I had the Toyota Camry for over a decade buying several and don't remember having a problem with them. I need reliable since I am caregiver to my husband. I appreciate your help.

    • White03T4RV82WD
      White03T4RV82WD Год назад +2

      Linda Jamme RAV4. The edge was just redesigned so it isn't going to be that reliable; plus ford has has reliability issues recently anyways. Nissan has had lots of problems with their transmissions, well you see how chevy is doing with the equinox. The RAV4 will always be the smart and safe choice.

    • Right Lane Hog
      Right Lane Hog Год назад +2

      RAV4

  • Michael Atchison
    Michael Atchison Год назад +8

    Why do automakers keep call these vehicles SUVs? They are hatchbacks by any other name.

    • nlpnt
      nlpnt 11 месяцев назад +1

      If I needed a new Toyota hatchback I'd go for a Corolla iM over the C-HR. Probably a bit better handling, way less overstyled/claustrophobic, you can get a manual. I'd prefer an update of the original Scion xB.

    • Didi Mulyadi
      Didi Mulyadi Год назад

      Michael Atchison SUV sound more macho. American don't like it if it not macho. lol most ppl who bought and drive SUV have some sort of insecurities problems.

    • Jojo Kim
      Jojo Kim Год назад

      The roads are full of hatchbacks, station wagons, and minivans.

  • Kiss Kiss
    Kiss Kiss Год назад +2

    Was Toyota trying to reinvent the Crosstour?

    • Kiss Kiss
      Kiss Kiss Год назад

      manthony225 oh I know, and understand. The point I was trying to make is that, they are similar in the looks and awkwardness of it. Especially when they bring the awd variant on this Toyota.

    • Tacoma98
      Tacoma98 Год назад

      Kiss Kiss The Crosstour was in the same class as the Outback and Toyota Venza. This is in the small crossover segment like the HRV and Mazda CX3

    • Kiss Kiss
      Kiss Kiss Год назад

      LifeHacks4All lol Neither on mine but to me, it may bring the same type of buyer. Of course, once they bring the awd variant.

    • PLATINUM
      PLATINUM Год назад

      Kiss Kiss i love hondas. but the crosstour was NOT on my radar.lol

  • conceptcs
    conceptcs Год назад

    Why didn't they just include the back up camera in the main screen?

    • Noah E
      Noah E Год назад

      It's nice to have two separate screens. We have a Subaru Outback and Jeep Grand Cherokee that use the main screen for the back up camera and a Forester that has a separate screen for the back up camera. You can adjust other system while backing up in the Forester which is nice. The Jeep system is super laggy sometimes and takes a while for the view to appear and then disappear. Toyota putting it on the rearview mirror makes sense because they don't have to design the dash around it and it's intuitive to look at a mirror to see what's behind you.

  • Luke Hoisington
    Luke Hoisington Год назад +1

    anything on a redesigned Nissan frontier?

    • MWJ '90
      MWJ '90 Год назад

      Luke Hoisington that would be nice to know but I don't think Nissan is going to release anything until they're finished rolling out their Titan line...an update for the Frontier is LONG overdue. It's good you can get one at a great price now though.

  • Dee T
    Dee T Год назад

    This Car was a Toyota from the get go, it's just that Toyota North-America intended to re-badge it and sell it has a Scion in North-America.

  • David
    David Год назад

    First

    • MrSmapdi
      MrSmapdi Год назад +1

      nobody cares, these videos only get tens of thousands of views.