The Poway Synagogue Shooting Is Dividing The American Jewish Community (HBO)

  • Published on May 1, 2019
  • Last Saturday, a 19 year-old white supremacist walked into a synagogue and started shooting.
    On Monday, Laurie Gilbert-Kaye was laid to rest, as her family, and an entire community, looked on.
    In some ways, this attack has inspired members of the Jewish community to come together as they mourn. But it also seems to be causing division, as people argue over who is to blame for the rise in antisemitism.
    To liberals, much of the blame lies with President Trump’s wink-wink relationship with the alt-right. But for those on the right, especially in the largely conservative community of Poway, the left’s criticism of Israel is a big part of the problem.
    One of the focal points of this debate has been Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, who has recently been accused of antisemitism for her remarks about Israel.
    This quickly became a wider political debate outside of the Jewish community - a day after the shooting, members of Congress, including Senator Ted Cruz and Congressman Chip Roy essentially blamed the attack on Omar.
    But leftists have accused the right of using the tragedy as a way to silence critics of Israel.
    VICE News visited Poway to hear more about how politics are affecting how a community deals with tragedy.
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Comments • 937

  • Belteshazzar Levy bar Roma

    CIA is probably enacting these atrocious acts

  • Abby Feldman
    Abby Feldman 4 days ago

    walk in this mans shoes, he is correct , pro Israel , pro Jewish, all the same and one, against the occupation, you are ridiculous

  • James Ginn
    James Ginn Month ago

    Danzig is representative of the biggest problem in this world...ignorant uneducated people who just blindly accept the bs of the western media.

  • Matthew Taylor
    Matthew Taylor Month ago

    Novel idea here.....

    Give reeling in Aipac a try. Just try it.

  • Noelle West
    Noelle West Month ago

    Very brave woman of integrity, that Mariyama Scott. That is a difficult position to take in this country. Met a rabbi in Germany working with a human rights group in Israel who educated me on the difference between anti-semitism and anti-zionism. God definitely orchestrated that encounter for me. I used to subscribe to Danzig's ideology too. These American zionists are (hopefully) well meaning, but I pray God will open their eyes and help them see through the propaganda to the truth.

  • Tiger Style
    Tiger Style Month ago

    Jesus H Christ. As soon as I hear some idiot say "horseshoe" they've lost all credibility. Louise Farrakhan is solidly on the right, it's not a "whites only" place. The same is when I hear some goofball unironically say "my people". We're all people and dividing us up unnecessarily is a huge part of the problem. I was introduced to anti Zionism by a Jewish friend. Had no clue what Zionism was before then, only heard the term from the Black Muslims and Black Israelites in my section growing up. My issue is with the practices of the state of Israel, I don't care where in the world it happens or who is doing it. Apartheid, ethnostatists, unprovoked military violence, land theft causing displacement and the like have no place on this planet. It's been wrong in every situation. Israel is just a very severe modern example based on one of the world's many mythologies that allow good people to do bad things. It's sick.

  • Varus
    Varus Month ago

    They're not even semetic.. they're converts

    • halacm411
      halacm411 Month ago

      Varus 2000 years and u guys still hate us please tell me y

  • fuckfannyfiddlefart

    Trump and the Republicans want more violence and killing which is why they cut funding to investigate right wing hate groups.

  • Gold K
    Gold K Month ago +1

    This guy looks like a predator. I feel if he witnessed a Palestinian child being killed by an IDF ziopig he would look the other way.

  • Israfael D.
    Israfael D. Month ago

    Most crimes are committed by white supremacists and nationalists in the States, yet all you hear is Islamic terrorism on the news, they barely talk about this.
    And btw, to criticise a government of Israel is not anti Semitic.
    Is criticising American government an anti American?
    Its called democracy!

  • Tawsif Elahi Chowdhury

    Most of these people claiming to be Jewish are not even Semitic 🤪

  • logicbomb007
    logicbomb007 Month ago

    The only ant-semit is this east coast elite's New York qeeto goomba picking on Semitic Palestinians, Israel is the most anti-Semitic state in the world subjecting Semitic people to apartheid.


    the only rise in antisemitism is this kind of garbage on vice. although people are definitely waking up to the Ashkenazi scams aka jewish Nazis.

  • Glenn Wallace
    Glenn Wallace Month ago

    David Duke and Farrakhan aren't an example of horseshoe theory because they're both racial nationalists, just for different races. In other words, Farakhan is a far-right figure just like the Duke

  • Amenta star
    Amenta star Month ago

    Uuuhhh, you mean when you came to another country that blacks were already living and stole the land and called your own,,can that be considered anti semtism

  • Asian
    Asian Month ago +4

    Why is Israel always being criticized but when any other country in the world does something no one ever criticizes them? It’s always Israel being blamed when the things do don’t even compare to what nations like Syria or North Korea or Iran or Venezuela are doing. If ppl are going to keep just going at Israel and being extremely hypocritical then it definitely makes me think they are being anti Semitic

    • Asian
      Asian Month ago +2

      Larry Lewinsohn true, the media never says anything about the terrorism they do, but when Israel defends itself it’s a huge deal.

    • Larry Lewinsohn
      Larry Lewinsohn Month ago +1

      Bad examples dude, people criticize those places too. Your example should have been Scott how people don't criticize the PLO and Hamas.

  • Gringo Espana
    Gringo Espana Month ago

    Fly high top man!

  • rec·i·proc·i·ty!

    Don’t these people identify with White Supremacy ... both groups are two sides of the same coin.

  • Michelle Singleton
    Michelle Singleton Month ago

    Soulless people hold hate for other human being in there heart.Noone can make me hate noone for who they believe in or their political views,etc.

  • simon nomis
    simon nomis Month ago

    Zionism vs Judaism.

  • simon nomis
    simon nomis Month ago

    These places don’t pay any taxes, yet stole over $150k taxpayers funds to pay for their security.

  • Janet Baker
    Janet Baker Month ago

    This is truly biased. The left is only bringing out the actual crimes of Israel. It's really sad that you can't take the truth.

  • webhead2777
    webhead2777 Month ago

    Trump is clearly a friend of of Isreal and the Jewish people while the entire democratic party refused to condemn Omar's anti-Semitism. The Poway shooter was a Trump hater too.

  • Suck My Opinion
    Suck My Opinion Month ago

    Trump had people from the Charlottesville rally speak at his campaign rallies.
    Pull your head out of ass.

  • Matthew Huhta
    Matthew Huhta Month ago

    St. Earnest did nothing wrong.

    All counter-semites must unite.

  • Stephen Hooton
    Stephen Hooton 2 months ago

    No the left is dividing the American Jewish Community.

  • mike askme
    mike askme 2 months ago

    lets be clear criticizing Israel is not antisemitism no more than me criticizing the nation of the Democratic Republic of the Congo for their lack of civilian security, would be anti-Africa and anyone who says different is fool.

    • mike askme
      mike askme Month ago

      @Larry Lewinsohn and your lack of what is antisemitism is beyond ridiculous.

    • Larry Lewinsohn
      Larry Lewinsohn Month ago

      Your lack of nuance is beyond ridiculous.

  • zammmerjammer
    zammmerjammer 2 months ago

    Fuck's sake... this guy is actually repeating Trump's "both sides" bullshit? "I'm nobody's pawn" -- uh, hate to break it to you, buddy.

  • eliispion
    eliispion 2 months ago

    They deserved it

  • Zarah A
    Zarah A 2 months ago +3

    Ilhan criticised Saudi Arabia, does that make her Islamophobic?

  • Zarah A
    Zarah A 2 months ago +3

    Ilhan apologised, I don't see the far righters doing that.

  • TheCircled K
    TheCircled K 2 months ago

    Notice that NO ONE can actually deny with evidence why Omar's claims about Israel or what the cartoon symbolizes
    they can only accuse ...
    They never say "that's bullshit and anti semitic" they only say "that's anti semitic" because they can't say its bullshit BECAUSE IT'S TRUE !!!

  • Shareef Taylor
    Shareef Taylor 2 months ago +1

    I was against South Africa when they had apartheid. I wasn't against European people, I was against their oppression. I'm likewise against the apartheid state of Israel, not the European people. Give up your apartheid state if you want to avoid being called out for your daily injustices, that have only escaped world wide sanctioning by the veto power of another country built on stolen land.

  • /'juzɚ neɪm/
    /'juzɚ neɪm/ 2 months ago

    Criticizing the current government in Isreal not anti-semitism. Isreal has a far-right government that supports an apartheid regime at home and a far-right international abroad.

  • Gold
    Gold 2 months ago

    A majority of many minorities dont care cause they remember how a particular group always undermined them and their homelands !
    Oh that argument of :
    Anti zionism is anti semetic
    Is very pathetic....
    Rabbis say the goyim are slaves

    • Larry Lewinsohn
      Larry Lewinsohn Month ago

      Bullshit, not a single thing in your comment is true.

    STAR CLIPSE 2 months ago


  • James Murphy
    James Murphy 2 months ago

    Stupid first education yourself by listening to rabbis
    Second realize the elites are divided and control the population by dividing it against itself

  • professor moriarty
    professor moriarty 2 months ago

    Audiobook fill length

  • Dam Jackass
    Dam Jackass 2 months ago +1

    I live just an hour from poway.... jesus christ.... this has to stop with all the hatred and division.

  • Chsse Chen
    Chsse Chen 2 months ago

    Ilham is antisemitic for asking her country and its official not to be loyal to other foreign nation. So much bullshit,Lol. Go back to Israel and serve it death squad if you loved it so much.

  • Kyle King
    Kyle King 2 months ago

    Semetics are children of a character of Shem from the first testament. Anti-Semitism is not even a real word

  • Nerius Landys
    Nerius Landys 2 months ago +1

    "Last Saturday, a 19 year-old person who was trying to cure society of its parasitic problem walked into a synagogue..."

  • likquidsteel
    likquidsteel 2 months ago +1

    One of the rare times I scroll through a RUclip comments section and loving the amount of logic I'm reading

  • agoodfella
    agoodfella 2 months ago

    109 countries

    • agoodfella
      agoodfella Month ago

      @Larry Lewinsohn theyve been kickedout of 109 countries

    • Larry Lewinsohn
      Larry Lewinsohn Month ago

      What do you mean? 109 countries what?

  • Ledkeegan :LedKeegan
    Ledkeegan :LedKeegan 2 months ago +1

    Just ban religion already

  • Richard Stead
    Richard Stead 2 months ago

    I heard the shooter was a convert to Islam.


    Pakistan and Turkish ARMY should establish a permanent military base in Jerusalem in order to protect the Al Aqsa Masjid in Palestine...


    More and more countries are now recognizing Palestine as an independent country Alhamdulila

  • 69 Tours
    69 Tours 2 months ago

    This isn't even newsworthy. What a waste of time.

  • Andromon
    Andromon 2 months ago +2

    I hate kіkes soooooo freaking much. This is gold.

  • Sirmatthewawesome
    Sirmatthewawesome 2 months ago

    *rubs hands in Jewish*

  • Mia DoubleZeroSeven
    Mia DoubleZeroSeven 2 months ago

    So, the President calls migrants animals & rapists (proceeds to separate them from their children in cages). China, Russia, N. Korea, Venezuela, The Mayor of London, & Canada have been criticized. There’s a BAN on Muslim countries (& transgendered in the military). Trump calls countries with minorities $hithole countries...but ISREAL is too far!? Call me an anti-Semite 🙄😒 because I think Israels inhumane policies are hypocritical and EVIL. American tax payers send billions in aid & can not speak about human rights??? The victims have now become the victimizers.
    Where was the outrage with *these* cartoons?? Israel is full of $HIT. I used to support & even donate...never again. 👈 👈 👈

  • Chris 3396
    Chris 3396 2 months ago

    The constant jewish whining is annoying.

  • Capn Phuktard
    Capn Phuktard 2 months ago

    I call Bullshit..Free Palestine

  • 664 TheNeighborOfTheBeast

    The right is committing these attacks, not the left. Anti - Israel is not Anti - Semitism.

  • Helen Heinz
    Helen Heinz 2 months ago +1

    Right wing anti semitism is bad but not left wing anti semitism ?? She has gone full loopy.

    • halacm411
      halacm411 Month ago

      Larry Lewinsohn LOL right wing is worse because the left don’t know how to shoot a gun and the left don’t know how to fight let alone attack anyone just a bunch of snowflakes 🤣 Who are still bitching and crying over the 2016 elections Believe me I’m not afraid of liberals but I am afraid of the far right

    • Larry Lewinsohn
      Larry Lewinsohn Month ago +1

      No, both anti-Semitism are bad, but right wing is worse. That's the point.

    • Ibrahim arogundade
      Ibrahim arogundade 2 months ago +1

      Helen Heinz yes because the far right actively engages in anti Semitism by shooting up synagogues, you don’t hear of any leftist taking up arms and shooting up a synagogue after being inspired by Ilhan Omar.

  • not sure
    not sure 2 months ago

    check out the Cynthia McKinney video where she talks about all of congress taking a pledge to Israel. We give billions annually to Israel meanwhile Detroit is starving.

  • Marsha Dingle
    Marsha Dingle 2 months ago

    If Palestinians were occupying the West Bank the way the Israelis are right now, I'd be pissed at them instead. Being critical of Israeli policy and the treatment of Palestinians is not anti Semitic.

  • TheDok
    TheDok 2 months ago +8

    Thank God the (((West))) saved us from Hitler. 🤡

  • TheDok
    TheDok 2 months ago +1

    Guys, stop the (((anti-semitism)))

  • Wikileads
    Wikileads 2 months ago

    simply, im glad some people say anti zionisim is antisemitic so now people would know its BS concept . it makes people see the truth. the more they talk about it the more they exposed.

  • Yowzoe
    Yowzoe 2 months ago +1

    The interviewer got played by the ex-cop. For centuries antisemitism from the right has been a world away from antisemitism on the left -- they are not remotely equivalent in strength or outcome.

  • None Yun
    None Yun 2 months ago

    The NYTimes pic wasn’t anti-Semitic! It’s the truth thru art! So, get over it!

  • None Yun
    None Yun 2 months ago +2

    Phony fake show! Ridiculous

    • None Yun
      None Yun Month ago

      Larry Lewinsohn also search Chabad

    • Larry Lewinsohn
      Larry Lewinsohn Month ago

      What was fake about this? Please, I would love to know since I care deeply about truth.

    • pete
      pete 2 months ago

      Word up. GRU!

  • NOGI48
    NOGI48 2 months ago

    Leave Palestine alone and problem solve.

  • JorDef
    JorDef 2 months ago +1

    You Americans should blame yourselves, because of your gun laws. Because you´re jewesh, that doesn´t make you a special victim. Seen how much americans die in avarage because every psycho can own a gun?

    • real 93
      real 93 2 months ago +1

      America needs to depopulate let them have their gun laws so they can kill each other off.

  • Vickygarcia73
    Vickygarcia73 2 months ago

    Is anyone going to comment on the hostess hairdo 🤦🏻‍♀️😳

  • Shilonious Monk
    Shilonious Monk 2 months ago

    L I A R S

  • Shilonious Monk
    Shilonious Monk 2 months ago

    Lies to control the mind...

  • Shilonious Monk
    Shilonious Monk 2 months ago

    100% fakery...should be embarrassed to bring us shuch garbage...nobody died in your dumb hoax...stop lying...

  • Noah Miller
    Noah Miller 2 months ago +3

    That cartoon is a representation of political commentary. It represents Israel and is meant to show how Trump is blindly following what Israel says about the situation in Israel and Palestine. "Criticizing Israel is antisemitism." That's a dangerous statement.

    • Larry Lewinsohn
      Larry Lewinsohn Month ago

      That cartoon was clearly anti-Semitic stop your bullshit. Criticising anyone is fine, the issues are not with the "what" but with the "how".

  • עמנואל נחמו
    עמנואל נחמו 2 months ago

    I'm Jewish and how much sad this story people need to stop saying white supremacist because it's not true and that man was a racist

  • Malik Rath
    Malik Rath 2 months ago +1

    You can criticize Israeli far right religious/nationalists in the injustice they are doing to what they claim are their own people the Palestinians, and you can stand against America's hard right white religious/supremacists/terrorists/nationalists as well. The longer this conflict in Israel goes on the worst it's gonna get. Take an example from Marshall Plan, if you claim the Palestinians are your people, then it's time to man up, or let them self govern. The Israeli government needs to stop supporting religious fundamentalists from stealing land, and end these settlers. I can't move onto my neighbors front lawn and call in the government to terrorize them and kill them, but this insane scenario plays out every year in Israel.

  • Natt
    Natt 2 months ago +7

    Criticizing Israel's existence is antisemitism.
    Criticizing Israel's policy isn't.
    Criticizing only Israel and NOT Palestinians is definitely antisemitism.
    Criticizing Israel when you haven't even tried to educate yourself on facts history and news of both the sides IS antisemitism.
    Prove me wrong I'm open to listen.

    • People Unite
      People Unite Month ago +1

      sefsadf asfasf, Israel is the victim because Palestine freaking launches terror attacks against Israel.

    • M.E. 20
      M.E. 20 Month ago +2

      @sefsadf asfasf Could you give me the name of this documentary and a link to it when it comes out?

    • sefsadf asfasf
      sefsadf asfasf 2 months ago +1

      Palestine is not in a position of power to actually hurt isreal at all therefore, it is reasonable to completely blame the states and isreal for this situation. The UN labels the 600 deaths committed last year by isreal as war crimes. The palestines do not have clean drinking water as the isrealis have been proven to add chemicals to it. There is a long and lengthy documentary that records all of the injustices and stories of the people of palestine that is coming out soon. The u.s. has only taken isreals side in this mess and has left the palestinians with no actual voice. To even claim that palestine has to be criticized along with isreal is fucking stupid. There is a clear imbalance of who has done far more damage and a clear indication of who is the victim.

  • dale osborne
    dale osborne 2 months ago

    Brave woman standing up to her own people the battle line between good and evil is never fought on a foreign field but within ones own heart.

  • The Imaginary Gallery
    The Imaginary Gallery 2 months ago +1

    Another fake Sandy Hoax. You cannot even have your gun in CA for 10 day waiting period. No way he bought gun the day before. Fake news. No tears on fake policeman rabbi.

    • The Imaginary Gallery
      The Imaginary Gallery 2 months ago

      @Dragon1717 Who is the inchworm? Why did it do what it did? Why does the tearless crying rabbi continuously use his hands when speaking and while clutching his script that had fingers blown off (yet miraculously zero hits on his body as if his wolverine styled fingers were strong enough to deflect all bullets away from the intended target?) Why is he pity playing that he needs armed guards that he can't afford despite numerous grants for security?

    • Dragon1717
      Dragon1717 2 months ago

      It was the inchworm who told the bird on the ledge to go. The Dalai Lama then approached. The orange and the pencil over to the stairs for nineteen and breakfast elevator

  • Bon Summers
    Bon Summers 2 months ago

    The guy was not a 'supremacist' he was a 'separatist'. Islamic peoples are 'supremacist' per the tenets of Islam.

  • Bugatti Veyron
    Bugatti Veyron 2 months ago +3

    3:47 definitely a guy lol

  • Earumamaadu
    Earumamaadu 2 months ago +1

    Zionism Sucks!

  • Grundle Munch
    Grundle Munch 2 months ago


  • Evil White Men
    Evil White Men 2 months ago

    Genocide is Israel's speciality literally this is nothing compared to the horrors of Middle Eastern wars. That Israel has funded and instigated over and over again.

  • OGBabyface Walker
    OGBabyface Walker 2 months ago

    That’s BS the last attacker’s on synagogs where white supremacy followers so there is no horse shoe them white boys want there stolen land back the land there four fathers stole. The congress woman is right how we America following Israel a land they stole also ... I learned greedy white ppl steal an create laws to protect them to keep stealing

  • Seven
    Seven 2 months ago


  • Gavin C
    Gavin C 2 months ago +2

    Ilhan Omar is probably smiling at the fact these innocent people were killed. Sharia law won’t ever be in my country

    • Gavin C
      Gavin C 2 months ago

      Darkness Within no it’s not. Rip to all the victims of Islam terror today 🙏🏻 you won’t change the conversation

    • Darkness Within
      Darkness Within 2 months ago

      @Gavin C
      Yes, it originally was theirs.

    • real 93
      real 93 2 months ago

      @Gavin C Exactly , that land isn't for the Ashkenazis.

    • Gavin C
      Gavin C 2 months ago

      real 93 you didn’t answer my question. That land isn’t theirs.

    • real 93
      real 93 2 months ago

      @Gavin C I$raeli ethnic cleansing is real. They are illegally occupying Palestine!

  • Truly Wylde
    Truly Wylde 2 months ago +1

    What?? How is this shooter far right? He's a pianist and a nurse from San Diego... What is far right about him?? Can anyone explain pls?

  • Ginny Oliver
    Ginny Oliver 2 months ago

    Why do the religions of Abraham get a pass on no criticism when they have killed , made war on the 'other's for centuries and treat women as property. Companies would be held accountable for this but they do not..... Just because they have god in their title. Men created this god for themselves at a time of superstition and ignorance when women were property and they have not evolved!

  • Belaj Boy
    Belaj Boy 2 months ago +5

    I hate Israel!!!
    They’re killing women and children every day
    They are no different from isis

    • Larry Lewinsohn
      Larry Lewinsohn Month ago

      You know nothing about Israel nor the issues in the Middle East.

    • real 93
      real 93 2 months ago

      @deal with it Israel + Isis = ISISRAEL

    • deal with it
      deal with it 2 months ago +1

      I hate you

  • kashif Nawaz
    kashif Nawaz 2 months ago

    Do you like it or not American government is the dog of Israel, they are currently leading America in the war with iran and syria, America will pay trillions of dollars on war and life of American soldier,
    While paying 38 billion dollar for aid Israel, And Europe will have to deal with migrant crisis,
    I don't think it's anti-Semitism it's truth

  • Christopher Soon
    Christopher Soon 2 months ago

    First order of business. Anti-Semitism is not anti-semitism.

    • Reich E
      Reich E 2 months ago

      Christopher Soon what do u mean?

  • Nathan Fields
    Nathan Fields 2 months ago

    @ 4:40 She is a dumb-ass blatant LIAR! The POTUS never said NAZI are fine people! She is a LIAR! She nor anyone can provide anything recorded of the President Trump saying such!

    • Nathan Fields
      Nathan Fields 2 months ago

      @Big Goat Nonsense! Are you being facetious are just posting ignorance? Go back and read the transcript of the POTUS remarks. The POTUS said there you had people. "And I'm NOT talking about the Neo Nazi or the white nationalist because they should be condemned totally". "But you had many people in the group other than the Neo Nazi and white nationalist. Okay. And the press has treated them unfairly".

      So what part of the President saying he was not talking about leftest or Nazi do you not understand?

  • gengiz olcaytore
    gengiz olcaytore 2 months ago

    The ex-cop stated that to demonized the only Jewish country is to be antisemitic. My question to him is that is the state of Israel a secular state or a theocracy? I can understand trying to balance being critical because of policies and being careful to not targeting the Israeli population because they're Jewish but there are some ideas that naturally bring religion and politics together. If im against the idea of zionism and take great care not to use antisemitic troupes and dog whistles then I think that shouldn't be labeled as antisemitic. he thinks rep omar is more a problem than the alt-right then he is delusional and my instincts is that he is concerned that the nature of the relationship between Israel and the u.s will change. This change probably will hold the Israeli and Palestine governments equally accountable.

  • Mr. Martinez
    Mr. Martinez 2 months ago +53

    "served in the Israeli military"... Ya there's no bais agenda there or anything.

    • Elmo
      Elmo 28 days ago

      If you live in Israel then youre going to serve, mandatory conscription with few exceptions.

  • D J
    D J 2 months ago +4

    Trump never said Nazis were fine people. You lied lady.

  • D J
    D J 2 months ago

    The media divides for porfit

  • Gavin C
    Gavin C 2 months ago +1

    In the words of Ilhan Omar, “it’s probably just another thing that happened.”

  • Dee Fernando
    Dee Fernando 2 months ago

    Someone should ask TURD BERNIE if he thinks that the POWAY MURDERER should be allowed to VOTE once he's CONVICTED and Sits on DEATH ROW for this crime?

  • Dee Fernando
    Dee Fernando 2 months ago

    VICE are PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL SCUM who pander to ISLAMIC TERRORISM... This is just another attempt to put the BLAME on TRUMP... yet its the LEFT's SILICON VALLEY's SOCIAL MEDIA that is the biggest FACILITATOR of EXTREMIST IDEOLOGIES.

  • dodonony1404
    dodonony1404 2 months ago

    If there is any disaster in the world،
    Search for the hand of Jewish Zionism.

  • Remo9200
    Remo9200 2 months ago +1

    hAVe yOu hEArD oF HoRSesHoE thEoRY

  • Sandie Khumlo
    Sandie Khumlo 2 months ago +1

    The most intolerant people of our time complaining about the intolerance they receive from a minority nobody can see... interesting.