The Real Moral Dilemma of Self-Driving Cars

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  • Опубликовано: 19 янв 2017
  • We talk about all the potentially challenging situations autonomous cars could get into but not about how human drivers are not very good. Tens of thousands die on the roads every year in collisions, most of which could be prevented by autonomous vehicles.
    Sponsored by BMW
    I wanted to make a video about autonomous cars for some time but I hadn't had the opportunity. The self-driving technology is already at a state where it can save lives if only it were more widely implemented.
    Links to original clips:
    TED-Ed ruclip.com/video/ixIoDYVfKA0/видео.html
    BBC Newsnight: ruclip.com/video/FypPSJfCRFk/видео.html&t=172s
    Music from www.epidemicsound.com "Ambient Electronic Groove," "Pet Animals 2," "The Long Ride."
    Filmed by Raquel Nuno
    Edited by Trevor Carlee

Комментарии • 6 701

  • MyChico333
    MyChico333 Год назад +9619

    People don't care about being safe, people care about feeling safe.
    Humans are morons by nature

    • Thomas McGillivray
      Thomas McGillivray 15 дней назад

      I want to be safe also?

    • Iago Mota
      Iago Mota 3 месяца назад

      "If self-driving cars don't fix 100% of the accidents, then NO."
      That kinda sounds like:
      "If laws against murder won't solve all murder, then NO."

    • Meade77
      Meade77 4 месяца назад +1

      Congratulations! You're a moron.

    • Autistic Aniki
      Autistic Aniki 4 месяца назад

      Good to know Veritaserum is anti-human.

  • Odageru Ionel
    Odageru Ionel День назад

    Where s the end of the video?

  • Joey Arnold
    Joey Arnold 4 дня назад

    smart cars kill people

  • Crouzier Benjamin
    Crouzier Benjamin 7 дней назад

    1:35 How about you just brake a little bit? The trolley problem for self driving cars is so overblown

  • Scott Johnson
    Scott Johnson 8 дней назад

    I've heard this moral argument before with autonomous cars.
    My answer is this:
    The self driving car will never speed or get distracted. The self driving car will see situation out in front of the truck, essentially it will be able to see through traffic and not have to react. The autonomous car will be able to see in all conditions far better then us. How many drivers understand the posted speed limit is for ideal conditions? The A.I. will drive slower.
    In other words the self driving car will not get in a situation where it has to decide 1/ kill my owner 2/ kill children crossing the street 3/ kill other car occupants.

  • Mani Bharathy
    Mani Bharathy 12 дней назад

    1:04 I'm still legally responsible if something happens.... to the car, Right ?

  • Mani Bharathy
    Mani Bharathy 12 дней назад

    Waymo launching self driving taxis later this year -Google I/O'18

  • Thomas McGillivray
    Thomas McGillivray 15 дней назад

    Worth watching....the RUclip video......."The terrifying truth about self-driving cars"

  • Quite Indeed
    Quite Indeed 18 дней назад +1

    What if the punishment for being alcoholic was to have a self driving car and whisky plates?
    Self driving cars also help the disabled and elderly.
    (thats if the elderly are willing to admit they shouldn't be driving)
    Maybe later on traffic jams won't be a problem since a satellite could control the flow of traffic.
    (ya know the whole "if everyone at a dead stop started accelerating at the same time" thing)

  • michalchik
    michalchik 22 дня назад

    The other real dilemma is do we want other people to be able to remotely control where we go and if we die.
    There are evil and insane people that are not only computer hackers, but also are members of Corporations and government or official representatives of those very institutions ruthlessly and acting their agendas.

  • Keith Bell
    Keith Bell 24 дня назад

    Human driven technology is killing us.Technology driving humans wont?And exactly how can we get humans to fully accept this technology? At least in the US the love affair between, not just owning a car, but actually DRIVING it is deeply embedded in the american psyche. You go tell most car owners to relinquish the keys to their vehicles and you may run the risk of getting run over.Personally I am fascinated with the idea of a world where every car drives itself for the sake of transporting humans to where ever they wish to go. But in the near future? Hold your breath while I wont be holding mine.

  • Ramond Goessens
    Ramond Goessens 25 дней назад

    So who in the future is fault when the car crashes, Google?

  • Sic Plays
    Sic Plays 26 дней назад

    Comparing a car that drives in a lane that is most of the time 12 fest wide and in rush hour levels of traffic to a plane that can fly in the vast available space of the sky with the nearest planes only coming into account during take offs and landings is not a fair comparison. Tesla’s Elon Musk himself has said that perfect autonomous driving is impossible to achieve. Instead of trying to implement technology to correct wrong and illegal behaviors why don’t we focus on the actual issue of people breaking current and well established laws. There are countless studies proving that when drivers feel uncomfortable they drive more carefully, therefore why don’t we make driving a more uncomfortable experience for people instead of cradling those who are already breaking the laws. There are two sides to every story and I would like if people would do research on both.

  • PSPKriz
    PSPKriz 28 дней назад

    So I trade your freedom for more safety you say ? I'm sticking to normal car thank you.

  • yan-Deriction
    yan-Deriction Месяц назад

    Defensive driving basically eliminates about 99% of moral dilemmas. Just for fun, the car-maker could put in an option for the user to pre-decide what to do in a dilemma.

  • Christopher Everson
    Christopher Everson Месяц назад

    Im at the crossover period. I cant wait to start brake checking peoples automated cars.

  • Jethro Gillgren
    Jethro Gillgren Месяц назад

    Well Put (:
    But the choice between swerving left into one guy or right into another is such a human thing. AI shouldn't think like that, there'd be more important metrics it would use, and options that humans can't have time to consider due us being so slow to process everything.
    It'd apply the brakes, or slide inbetween a gap, etc... Or it wouldn't get in the situation in the first place where you have no path but killing someone.

  • jort93z
    jort93z Месяц назад

    Whats the benefits of that holographic menu screen? couldn't you just as well fit a normal touchscreen there? 0:30

  • - _ LIR _ -
    - _ LIR _ - Месяц назад

    As humans we dont think about who else to save, we think about us . So my self driving car would analize thw situation and save me ( at least try to find the optimal thing to do ) and the self driving motorcicle would go slightly offroad as it is smaller

  • Mike Spain
    Mike Spain Месяц назад

    More like 50,000 deaths by auto accidents/year. Yes, there are a lot of bad drivers on the road. Self driving cars ain’t the answer. Won’t ever not drive a car myself.

    • NicoAW
      NicoAW Месяц назад

      then what is the answer? and why will you never want a self driving car? oh and per year 1.3 million people die by car crashes.

  • RySpirit
    RySpirit Месяц назад

    The car will kill the motorcycle and then run into the car to the left killing you with it. I have seen Terminator, I dont trust it.

  • CRT Mojo
    CRT Mojo Месяц назад +1

    Build them a separate lane. Start with the highways. Poeple will watch all the autonomous cars whizzing by; while they sit in traffic. Sales will increase and you can take more lanes on the road as needed.

  • MrBebopChamploo
    MrBebopChamploo Месяц назад

    One thing about self driving cars which I think is important to consider (whether you care or not is up to you) is where the motivation for their development is coming from. What car companies tell the public vs what they tell their investors as to why it's worthwhile for them to be researching and developing self driving vehicles are two separate things. The message to the public is basically what you hear in this video - the technology has real potential to save lives (and, not mentioned, to lower emissions of transportation by decreasing traffic). Those benefits are real, and while it's certainly a benefit for businesses pursuing the technology, it's not the main reason. Obviously the main reason is profit, whatever, that's the motivation behind any business venture. The problem is that most of the profit comes from data collected on the passengers of the autonomous vehicle - data on where people are going and when, most broadly, and this information can then be sold to whomever - retailers, advertisers, marketers, product planners, financial analysts, government agencies, anyone willing to pay for it, and who can then use that information to build profiles about you. It's nothing new, it's the same thing Facebook, Google and basically every other internet business does to internet users, just with information about your physical habits rather than digital. Whether you find this collection of personal data to be an unacceptable breach of privacy or not is up to you, I don't really care. I just think it's worth thinking about.

  • Marc T
    Marc T Месяц назад

    Blah blah. Except that autonomous cars are still too stupid to not run over pedestrians or crash into walls for no good reason. They lack the contextual reasoning ability to predict how things will behave ahead of time to avoid otherwise potentially avoidable accidents, among other things.

  • Scott Biggs
    Scott Biggs Месяц назад

    I think this really misses the most significant moral dilemma of autonomous vehicles. I generally feel safe while driving with other people around because I assume that they don't want to get hurt (or suffer some sort of loss or punishment) by hitting me. And even if another driver does cause me harm, I or those close to me can exact some sort of revenge (criminal or civil). Punishment and revenge don't make sense versus a machine. And that makes me wary.

  • kakarroto007
    kakarroto007 Месяц назад +1

    Fast forward a year later, and the good people over at Uber already have a body count.

  • Mateus Gonçalves
    Mateus Gonçalves 2 месяца назад

    I know another ethical dilemma: what to do when this type of car takes over all jobs from people who work behind a wheel.

  • The Firehawk
    The Firehawk 2 месяца назад

    If the responsibility of what the car does autonomously falls to the owner, people will still drive manually, so to ensure this takes on and lives are spared, this responsibility cannot be of the owner of the vehicle, or, another option, is to lease them to people or have them serve as cabs so that the responsibility will be of the company.

  • Marty4650
    Marty4650 2 месяца назад +1

    The moral dilemma here isn't about safety. There is absolutely no doubt that self driving cars will be safer, since they remove the factors of driver error, driver impairment, and driver distraction.. There will be fewer lives lost.
    The real dilemma is about how this will change our society:
    1. FIVE million jobs lost (truck, cab, delivery and bus drivers).
    2. More people commuting since they can sleep on their way to work.
    3. More people living further from their jobs, using more fuel.
    4. More traffic and congestion, as they let their cars "drive around the block" rather than paying for parking.
    5. More roads needed as people who couldn't use cars now can. (Blind, elderly, infirm.etc.)
    6. Less need to carpool or share rides resulting in more cars on the road.
    The real problem isn't safety. It is economic and societal. Eventually, it will happen, but it will seriously change the way we do things, and those changes will have a severe impact on our lives.
    My guess is that every one of those problems listed above will be solved in time. But there will be some real problems during the transition.

  • Kabup
    Kabup 2 месяца назад

    Who will be guilt if a accident happens? The owner of the car, the fabric who build it, or the programmer? In the video, you was concerned about the responsability, that shows me even who is positive about this, don't want to take the risks.

    • Mohammed Lee
      Mohammed Lee 2 месяца назад

      " Of course, in the end, a lot of lifes will be saved, and the few casualities will be worthy."
      This is 100% true. That's why autonomous driving is unavoidable.

    • Kabup
      Kabup 2 месяца назад

      That's what I know so far, the driver is fully responsible alone, and he is trusting in the software blindly, his life and the other's. Of course, in the end, a lot of lifes will be saved, and the few casualities will be worthy. But it is not something I will be confortable soon.

    • Mohammed Lee
      Mohammed Lee 2 месяца назад

      not true, since Tesla already has some sort of autopilot, the driver is 100% responsible using it, and in fact it is being used.

  • alex celedon
    alex celedon 2 месяца назад +1

    You will never be as successful as VSauce, Michael here.

  • yammyharrone
    yammyharrone 2 месяца назад

    Dead are the days of the 'good driver' 😢

  • shugaze
    shugaze 2 месяца назад

    I'd prefer to wait a little longer before getting the self-driving cars on the road. Although the technology is quite impressive now, there's a lot of improvement that need to be made. There's research done Tesla Motors' autopilot mode, and it's only able to alert the driver of a motorcycle collision just under 60% of the time, compared to about 97% ish valid alerts with cars (I do have the link to the source, if anyone wants to fact check/correct this information). The biggest reason for this is because the DOT doesn't require motorcycle detection. I'm sure this will pose more of a problem with bicyclists, and possibly animals as well. I don't have any information on that, so correct me if I'm wrong. Although it'd cool to have self driving cars on the road now, being a motorcyclist that's already invisible to drivers, I'd rather wait for the standards to change before we make the cars more accessible.

  • Illinoska Buluama
    Illinoska Buluama 2 месяца назад

    Well, for one, they're pricy...

  • Daniel Posner
    Daniel Posner 2 месяца назад

    33000 deaths and 2 million injuries a year on the roads of the US. That sounds a lot until you work out what those figure represent as a percentage of the number of car journeys each year in the US.
    CHANCES OF DEATH
    Car journeys = 411,000,000,00 (411 billion)
    (www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/subject_areas/national_household_travel_survey/daily_travel.html)
    Deaths = 30,000. (according to this video)
    The chance of you dying the next time you go out in your car = 0.00007% (Google calculator :)
    CHANCES OF INJURY
    Car journeys = 411,000,000,00 (411 billion)
    (www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/subject_areas/national_household_travel_survey/daily_travel.html)
    Injuries = 2,000,000. (according to this video)
    The chance of you sustaining an injury the next time you go out in your car = 0.005% (Google calculator :)
    Funny how figures can be used to manipulate how you feel about a subject.

  • eyechubcunt
    eyechubcunt 2 месяца назад

    I don't understand these moral judgements. Like anyone ever makes them. In the example the only course of action would be break. And stay in lane.

  • Akira Fenix
    Akira Fenix 3 месяца назад

    Ah great.
    It's sponsored.
    Good, now i generate money to someone just by watching and i want to not do that.

  • runar68
    runar68 3 месяца назад

    If you cant drive? Take the train/metro

  • Interdumensional Pie
    Interdumensional Pie 3 месяца назад

    If an autonomous vehicle experiences an error, no matter how less likely that error occurs in respect to human driver errors. The company who developed the driving algorithm would be liable for the driver's death. Then legislation that directs the liability back to the driver just removes any incentive for the company to produce a reliable algorithm. If the driver kills themselves because of their own error then it's not the brand's fault and these companies are perfectly fine with it.

  • I/O
    I/O 3 месяца назад +4

    So... technology is basically made to avoid the consequences of stupid people... I wonder how humanity has made it to 2018 without running extinct

  • Limitbreakur
    Limitbreakur 3 месяца назад +1

    why aren't we getting them on the road faster? because the technology is far from being there.

    • Limitbreakur
      Limitbreakur Месяц назад

      Mohammed Lee I drive 50 hours a week and often between drunk people at night. I never came close to running one over. I'm done responding to you. Yo argue for the sake of arguing and your arguments are empty.

    • Mohammed Lee
      Mohammed Lee Месяц назад

      That's an enormous claim, you think you can react AND make your car react in 2 seconds? I doubt this, and of course I would not make this claim for myself.
      The question is: In the mid of the night the car has clearly his lights on, how on earth can you overlook that car if you watch the street before crossing it?

    • Limitbreakur
      Limitbreakur Месяц назад

      Mohammed Lee that's ridiculous, I wouldn't have hit the person if I was driving.

    • Mohammed Lee
      Mohammed Lee Месяц назад

      Not really marketing, but I'm well aware of humans making mistakes all the time while driving cars, and it is already the case that those imperfect autopilots we already have are MUCH more better in driving cars than humans. So I expect autopilots to reduce accidents on streets by at least 90% and those 10% left will be those stupid humans who go without any light in the mid of the night in front of a car like the recent uber car accident. The video shows it perfectly it was not ubers fault or the drivers fault but all the pedestrian fault changing the side of the street without watching out. Maybe it was suicide by car, or just stoned by some drugs.

  • Zzz
    Zzz 3 месяца назад

    I don't want a computer in control of my car. I like being in control.

  • Zzz
    Zzz 3 месяца назад

    No, "we" are not using our phones. It's the irresponsible retards who are using their phones. Those folks are more dangerous than drunk drivers.

  • Alexander Campbell
    Alexander Campbell 3 месяца назад

    some will still chose do drive them selfs due lack of trust and also hacker are going to be a lot scarier

  • Jedd Schmidt
    Jedd Schmidt 3 месяца назад

    BECAUSE ITS TAKING AWAY JOBS!

  • CJ Walters
    CJ Walters 3 месяца назад

    It will really feel good when it drives you under a truck because it can't identify between the trailer and the SKY!

  • Victor Bahzad
    Victor Bahzad 3 месяца назад +1

    My question is the moral dilemma of "who should the car kill in a tough situation" a real question? cant we just program them to not get into stupid situations? and if every single car on the road was autonomous would it be even possible for a car to get into a crash that requires a tough choice?

    • Victor Bahzad
      Victor Bahzad 2 месяца назад

      No, it's more like an airline pilot saying "let's not land our plane on a crowded Highway." interesting enough the interstate highway system was in fact intended to serve as a landing site for military planes.
      I really don't see how many of these "moral dilemmas" scenarios would actually occur at higher than 25 mph, which would give the car ample stopping time.

    • Victor Bahzad
      Victor Bahzad 2 месяца назад

      Note, you're the one being the dipshit because as soon as I went into depth on my actual position on the subject you completely ignore the discussion and focus only on the accusation.
      many of these moral dilemmas presented could easily be avoided by programming the car to not go 60 miles an hour down a busy city road. which is actually illegal anyways. the cars drive cautious enough on their own for these artifical situatuion to be complete nonsense. I'd be interested in seeing what kind of accidents self driving cars actually do get into. but we wont know that until they are on the road for a good whle.

    • Burkutace27
      Burkutace27 2 месяца назад

      *my original argument was that these moral dilemma situations will never happen in reality*
      That's like an airline pilot saying 'let's just not crash.'

    • Victor Bahzad
      Victor Bahzad 2 месяца назад

      Its called black box problem-solving. Basically, you analyze the cause of real-world situations after the fact so that future accidents and deaths are less likely.
      My original argument isn't that self-driving cars can be perfect. my original argument was that these moral dilemma situations will never happen in reality and the only way for them to actually happen is if you program the car to actively seek out dangerous situations.
      Yes, there will be accidents but they will look nothing like these moral dilemmas presented.

  • BigPaaryna
    BigPaaryna 3 месяца назад

    Theres already 3 billion people more than earth can support right now. Too much safety is.. too much. no thanks.

  • Shorpy
    Shorpy 3 месяца назад

    Y'all tryna play cod ww2 on a 1998 mac? Yeah, didn't think so. I'm not trusting an old computer with my life. I'm sticking to human controlled vehicles, pre year 2000 to avoid annoying electronic assists.

  • Sander Vercammen
    Sander Vercammen 3 месяца назад

    What a surprise, a self driving BMW even double parks.

  • DoomRater
    DoomRater 3 месяца назад

    When personal transportation offers all the same advantages of mass transit... but just transporting me... won't self driving vehicles just make mass transit even less attractive? Cities still won't want to subsidize the costs of riding their systems and replacing a bus driver with an AI offers zero advantages to the bus rider. But an AI on my personal car? Now I don't even get driving fatigue while I arrive at my destination in a fifth of the time and I get all the other benefits of driving.

  • challengerbrant
    challengerbrant 4 месяца назад

    I drive because it is fun and enjoyable. I will not hand over the wheel to a computer.

  • Ashley ASHLEYM
    Ashley ASHLEYM 4 месяца назад

    I can hardly trust another human driving, there's no way I'm trusting a computer they mess up too much and I domt go in elevators because they mess up a little too often for my liking.

    • Kevin Dewitt
      Kevin Dewitt 3 месяца назад

      Self driving cars are safer then human drivers, that's part of the point.

  • Muh Shekels
    Muh Shekels 4 месяца назад

    You want to save lives at the expense of taking responsibility from people?
    You are going against evolution.
    You'll end up with a world full of idiots.
    That's immoral.

  • Jonas Gundlach
    Jonas Gundlach 4 месяца назад

    you are so smart its not normal. everything you do inspires me

  • Jason Yergler
    Jason Yergler 4 месяца назад

    So, how much did BMW pay you for this? You do realize that not being open and clear about their sponsorship damages your credibility, don't you? It makes me wonder about all your other videos. Were they sponsored, were you letting biases, whether personal or financial influence your point of view?

  • Steven L. Coleman
    Steven L. Coleman 4 месяца назад

    Do you think a Personal Rapid Transit system would be more energy and cost-efficient? And would self-driving cars still be more popular with them as an option?

  • dan f
    dan f 4 месяца назад

    but how will they perform in 4 feet of snow, blizzards, deep mud, middle of nowhere unmarked roads, on frozen lakes, or in places where maybe you want to slow down and enjoy some scenery?

  • null
    null 4 месяца назад +1

    Humans are smart enough to create intelligence beings, but foolish enough to fear them.

  • Todd Lerfondler
    Todd Lerfondler 4 месяца назад

    thats easy, just create a self sacrificial system that ensures the driver, passengers and people around your vehicle stay safe

  • nina koko
    nina koko 4 месяца назад

    But ppl can figure out how to hack it. It would be easier to kidnap ppl or even kill them!

  • The Arts of Marcus Mravik
    The Arts of Marcus Mravik 4 месяца назад

    I like the idea of cars that aid the driver (aka they'll correct the car or make adjustments). I don't want a car that completely takes the control away until I want it completely back. I want a car that gives complete control until it sees a problem imminent, then controls the car completely until the problem has passed.

  • Peppe Ddu
    Peppe Ddu 4 месяца назад

    There is no moral dilemma if it's a human choice.
    The driver should make those decision ahead of time, by setting up the right parameters in the self driving vehicle BEFORE the very first time he/she starts driving.
    - In an accident, should the car self crash in order to avoid injuring other people?
    - In an accident, should the car avoid hitting a bike or another vehicle first?
    - On a potential collision with an animal should the car try to save the animal or the passengers?
    etc etc.

  • manguirish sakhalkar
    manguirish sakhalkar 4 месяца назад

    its an bmw

  • Bevin Allison
    Bevin Allison 4 месяца назад

    I prefer the feeling of driving the car to the extent that my fav ones are still stick shifts. As a teen it was this huge right of passage. If given a choice I'd never take or drive in a non human controlled car. As for airplanes being auto flown, they still have trained pilots that can take over at anytime. However saying all that, I can see a market for auto cars for times when ppl cannot get from a to b due to handicap or age, but that's about it.

  • Negasuki
    Negasuki 4 месяца назад

    If software created by a company crashes a car I purchase, why would I actually choose take responsibility for that possibility?

  • Helium Valentine
    Helium Valentine 4 месяца назад

    Definitely swerve into the suv over the motorcycle. Very likely the svu will survive. It’s 100% the motorcyclist will die.
    It’s more of a dilemma for a big car vs a smaller car such as an SUV and a sedan.
    And the option not mentioned, to not swerve at all . . . .

  • Wesley P
    Wesley P 5 месяцев назад

    if all these people are dying on the highways the maybe we should be looking at the highways. people may not like it but maybe traffic should be slowed to a max speed of 35MPH in all zones everywhere. this includes highways. just because you can go faster doesnt mean you should. next laws should be passed to make sure cars cannot exceed 50MPH even if you tried to make them do so. 3rd more laws should be pass stating that anyone driving over 50 should be charged with some form of wreckless endangerment and have their drivers license suspended for at least 1 year, if caught driving without one your car should be impounded indefinitely. all these measures would reduce deaths by a massive amount. sure it would take longer to get places but when the cost of getting there faster is peoples lives its not worth it.
    even driveless cars will sometimes break down. what happens when a circuit controlling the computer in a driverless car fries suddenly while its driving? what if its going 65MPH on a highway? do you still crash at 65mph? will you live? see the same question applies there too. 35MPH has a greater survival rate then 65. 65-70 is basically always death where as 35 normally results in severe, but treatable injuries.

  • thestreetlawyer1
    thestreetlawyer1 5 месяцев назад +1

    Only morons drive while using their phone. Your piloting a 4000 lb missile, act like it.

  • GazzilAussie
    GazzilAussie 5 месяцев назад

    Autonomous cars are the future, people need to get over it... Think about the fact that cars can talk to each other, so in a crash situation, almost all cars can avoid, this is a lot faster then humans that don't know where the other cars are going to go e.t.c

  • Donnie Watson
    Donnie Watson 5 месяцев назад

    The missing part of this discussion is the fact that any tech in automobiles ends up having greater bugs than anticipated by the engineers, when first introduced on mass.
    I worked on automobiles for 26 years, having only changed careers in the past 2 years. I've seen many safety devices have to run the gauntlet of bugs to manage to outlive the lawsuits created by defective designs.
    All of this is to say, such tech will be excellent until it breaks. The question is, "Will this tech survive long enough to have a level of reliability greater than it's potential liability?"

  • PS2Damon
    PS2Damon 5 месяцев назад

    just make the driver accountable for any accidents, they still have control of the car when it's needed

  • AlagomSwede
    AlagomSwede 5 месяцев назад

    I'm looking forward to when driver-less cars are more common for the sake of the people who don't like driving. Personally I think I'll never get one as I'm too much of a petrol-head to give up on driving. This pretty much sums up my view: ruclip.com/video/l5xws9t54X4/видео.html?t=5m53s

  • This Guy
    This Guy 5 месяцев назад +4

    This is just the tip of the iceberg, what's next? Are machines going to decide what I'm allowed to eat as well? Work for me? Put me in bed? Surf the web for me? I couldn't care less about safety if I'm not allowed to be free anymore. Sense of responsibilities will become thing of the past if we keep heading in this direction.
    Good thing where I am there's winter and shittons of snow and ice. Self-driving cars would be rubbish in such conditions. We're not getting any of these officially implemented here for at least a 100 years. Easy.
    And if we ever do before that, I'm leaving country.

    • This Guy
      This Guy 2 месяца назад +1

      I got family out of country, it would actually be rather easy for me to do just that.

    • Dojima Ryotaro
      Dojima Ryotaro 2 месяца назад

      Just like everyone left the country when Trump got elected. Right, buddy? Right?

  • Alexander Stollznow
    Alexander Stollznow 5 месяцев назад +2

    I completely concur with all that is said in this video. Concerns over how a computer might juggle the choices between, as the thinking goes, it will prioritise when endangering 3rd parties, is unrealistic - i dont suppose any algorithm will be based on 'whom should i kill first?'. It also overlooks the fact that such decisions are already being made, by humans.
    My only concern about autonomous cars is that it will lead to me being excluded from having a right to drive at all, on the basis that you cant trust humans.

    • Alexander Stollznow
      Alexander Stollznow 5 месяцев назад +1

      two answers to that:
      a/ because humans need to be able to enjoy their lives, and driving cars is something enjoyed by many.
      b/ by saying "risk so many lives" you are grossly overstating the risks posed by human drivers, to others.
      When you remove deaths in single car accidents where the driver is also the victim, risk takers on motorbikes, and pedestrian deaths which are COMPLETELY preventable by pedestrians not walking in front of cars, then the % of all road deaths caused by an 'other' driver is quite small. Plus, the risk of being killed in a car accident is tiny in first place.
      so, yes, there is a risk in having humans drive cars, but it is a tiny one compared to a range of life's risks, and is entirely justifiable as a legitimate form of life enjoyment. this really is only an issue of importance for safety nazis who care nothing about the broader benefit to society. if avoiding any risk at any price was really worthwhile, then it would be illegal to go on a frivolous drive on the weekend for sightseeing. and we would have 40km/h speed limits on motorways. instead, the vast majority of people are happy to take some risk, in return for pragmatism and life enjoyment.
      lastly, exactly the same tecnological aids which will make driverless cars less risky, can be operational to some extent when cars are piloted, even further reducing the argument for not allowing people to drive cars.

    • OneFourFive
      OneFourFive 5 месяцев назад

      So be it, why risk so many lives just because you want turn some steering wheel?

  • Ethan W.
    Ethan W. 5 месяцев назад

    Making autonomous cars will take a happiness that many people feel from a car. Think about it- with self-driving cars, there will no longer be need for any sports cars to enjoy. I think that the solution is in the drivers' test don't allow redoes for a set amount of time and make the whole class harder so only qualified drivers get on the road.

  • Enjgine
    Enjgine 5 месяцев назад

    BMW testing Teslas standard feature

  • Flo
    Flo 5 месяцев назад

    Natürlich ist es ein deutsches Auto.

  • Robert
    Robert 5 месяцев назад

    I disagree with the example at 1:35. If the vehicles can communicate with each other (which they probably will), than the car would be able to tell the other vehicles to stop or move out of the way or whatever whereas humans can’t send messages to other humans at high speeds.

  • D4NIE3LS BR12
    D4NIE3LS BR12 5 месяцев назад

    Brasil onlne

  • Sam Dawkins
    Sam Dawkins 5 месяцев назад

    i dont want to be a slave to a machine. just like a prefer to walk than have people carry me i want to be in control.do we want to lose our freedom?

  • Harpy Productions
    Harpy Productions 5 месяцев назад +1

    as far as i know most acident can simply by avoided by breaking if you are not speeding over speed limit. so i say. if the car detect that an acident will happen but cant avoid victims, the car should drive itself to make the car driver itself and its passagers be the only victims

  • Ridheesh
    Ridheesh 5 месяцев назад

    I'll be 18 next year, will get my driver's license, my generation will be last which will observe both combustion engines, electric engines, self driving and autonomous driving.

  • ScienceBot
    ScienceBot 5 месяцев назад

    I️ see a few major problems with cars becoming self-driving in the way people are expecting them to.
    What I️ mean by this is, cars shouldn’t become self driving gradually, but all at once. This is easier said than done.
    The problem described in the video, should the car swerve left into an SUV with a family inside or to the right with an elderly man on a motorcycle is a real issue. It wouldn’t be if every car in the situation was self driving. The car behind the semi could talk to the SUV, the SUV could speed up and allow the car to move into the other lane to avoid the collision.
    But making every car on the road self driving all at once would be impossible, for reason one, price, Cars that are self driving are currently 40,000+ USD and some cost more. This puts the affordability at a low. Not everyone could afford a vehicle like that.
    Reason two is stubbornness, people are stubborn in their ways. Many wouldn’t trust the car and would rather drive themselves. This would cause an issue with all the other self driving cars on the road.
    Reason three, when accidents do happen. It doesn’t matter how many times they test and improve the self driving algorithms, there will be errors. No technology is ever completely perfect. There would still be accidents, glitches, miscalculations. Who do we blame for them? The car company? The Owner of the car? The car?!
    These were just a couple of the issues I️ see with self driving cars. Just my opinion though.

  • Danjal Veskandar
    Danjal Veskandar 5 месяцев назад

    What should the car do when faced with choosing between two bad options? Communicate with the self-driving vehicles to both sides to have them become a variable rather than a static in the equation.

  • Mark Chester
    Mark Chester 5 месяцев назад

    Or just hear me out guys ,We could pay attention to the road when we're behind the wheel 🤤🤤🤤I know the thought of that is just unthinkable

  • DrewEmc2
    DrewEmc2 5 месяцев назад

    Don't buy into this, people and animals getting hit by autonomous cars everyday

  • SNORKYMEDIA
    SNORKYMEDIA 5 месяцев назад

    americans dont worry about shooting each other - why are they worried about this?

  • the Sun
    the Sun 5 месяцев назад

    I think its more of trust thing than anything else

  • VitaliUS EN
    VitaliUS EN 5 месяцев назад

    thanks for interesting video

  • trottingwolf
    trottingwolf 5 месяцев назад

    There is no moral question about what an autonomous car should do in some circumstance. For example the one shown in the clip that questions, "should the car swerve into the motorcycle or SUV." That is not a moral question. If the car is going to get into an accident and there is no place to go that does not cause another accident then the car just drives on into the accident, or bail of hay in this example.
    I have never heard of a situation that really poses a "moral question" because in all the cases I have heard the answer is the car will only avoid the accident it is about to get into if there is a way to avoid it without getting into another accident.
    You might be able to make up some situation where it looks like there is a moral choice, but in the context of a moving car with fractions of a second to make a surprise decision where you knowledge of the situation is not complete, I don't think you can come up with a situation that is not either incredibly rare to the point that's its meaningless in the context of human vs autonomous driving safety, or the answer is that if you are in a situation where you can't get out then you can't get out and there is nothing you or a computer can do about it.

  • friendsofthepenan
    friendsofthepenan 5 месяцев назад

    I think insurance premiums will usher in the inevitable autonomous vehicle era whatever happens. I don't agree that the moral dilemma questions are a distraction. Accelerating the uptake of self-driving cars does not get around the question of how to program the software to respond in a no win scenario. The decision has to be made ahead of time that is the difficult part.

  • uberteen999
    uberteen999 5 месяцев назад

    That would cost a lot of money

  • Gabriel francis
    Gabriel francis 5 месяцев назад

    1:33 I imagine that scenario would be difficult for a human too

  • Adam J
    Adam J 5 месяцев назад

    It is not a moral dilemma. It is just an add disguised as knowledge.

  • William Wesemann
    William Wesemann 5 месяцев назад

    c'mon, what about tesla?!
    I don't like BMW
    sorry BMW fans.

  • DJosephWells
    DJosephWells 5 месяцев назад

    No more parking tickets, ill just blame my car.

  • Sailor Barsoom
    Sailor Barsoom 5 месяцев назад

    Thank. You.
    I keep seeing all these videos and reading all the articles (and the comment sections are worse) about swerving into a wall, thus killing the driver, swerving into three pedestrians, or hitting a school bus (or other BS scenarios).
    How many people reading this have a driver's license? Did you take a written test? Did the test ask if you were willing to kill yourself to avoid hitting one pedestrian? Did the test ask if you were willing to kill one pedestrian in order to spare a busload of children? Whether you would choose to hit a doctor or a nun? One child or fifty kittens?! ANSWER ME!!!
    I suspect that your written exam had no such questions.

  • zippy
    zippy 5 месяцев назад +15

    There will not be self driving cars wide spread for 50 years. We just don't have the tech. to do it safely and wont for a long time. Get over it.

    • Simboiss
      Simboiss 2 месяца назад

      Well, yes, the switching argument makes sense. For where I live, it means 3-4 months of switching it off. That would greatly reduce the attractiveness of the feature. Just like any other "advanced" feature in a car, only a minority of people, and rich ones who don't care about coughing extra money, would actually buy the option.

    • Amethyst Espeon
      Amethyst Espeon 2 месяца назад +1

      It is very close. They literally just showed it in the video. If people use it like Cruise Control, I can't see how it would have to learn how to drive in heavy weather. Besides, most *people* don't know how to drive in many of those circumstances. It's like saying that the elevator has to be able to autonomously use itself where it needs to go during a fire/earthquake. These cars aren't fully autonomous, they would allow drivers to take control. So when you're in those conditions, then just take control. But when you're coming home from college after a full day of finals after an allnighter, being able to turn on autopilot and relax sounds like a better idea than making that person drive themselves (I know going on the road either way is a bad idea, but people still do it.)

    • Simboiss
      Simboiss 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, sure, but for driving right now, the technology isn't there.

    • Burkutace27
      Burkutace27 2 месяца назад

      Simboiss
      You want proof? Your proof is in the millions of computer systems that manage mission critical infrastructure and systems (power stations, hospitals, autopilots) 24/7 without fault.
      Computers are better at driving than humans can ever be; they don't get distracted, they don't drive when impaired, they can make 1000s of adjustments to the controls by the time it takes a person to think "Hmm, should I go a bit slower?"

  • Stikbot Studios!
    Stikbot Studios! 5 месяцев назад

    One problem... Hackers..... Hackers can hack the cars and cause the cars to crash, so pretty much with these instead of insurance, you need anti viruses