Was Kati Morton's Undercover Therapist Role Appropriate or Ethical? (World of Jake Paul)

  • Опубликовано: 9 окт 2018
  • This video was recorded due to subscribers’ requests, in which they asked for an analysis on Kati Morton’s undercover therapist role, which she adopted for a video with Shane Dawson (“The World of Jake Paul” [part 5 in the series]). The question is: Was Kati Morton undercover role unethical or inappropriate. The video in which she was featured is popular and some are concerned the behavior exhibited was inconsistent with the values of mental health clinicians. This video’s only purpose is to analyze ethical and mental health-related concerns and not to make any determinations based on ethics, laws, or other standards. The evidence used for this analysis is essentially limited to the aforementioned video.
    The code of ethics used in this video is here: www.camft.org/images/PDFs/CodeOfEthics.pdf
    Here is a description of psychopathy, sociopathy, and antisocial personality disorder based on what we know from the research literature:
    Antisocial Personality Disorder is a disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). It's a Cluster B personality disorder, so it's in the same cluster as narcissistic, borderline, and histrionic personality disorders. Antisocial personality disorder affects about 3% of the population, but depending on what literature you look at, it may affect up to 80% of the population in correctional settings. We see the definition of antisocial personality is broken to a few different criteria: a tendency to violate social norms (committing actions that could be grounds for arrest), deceitfulness, impulsivity, irritability or aggression, a disregard for the safety of others, irresponsibility, and a lack of remorse. In order for somebody diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder they must be at least 18 years of age. Conduct disorder symptoms must have been present before the age of 15, so just as is the case with all personality disorders, there is no such thing as late onset antisocial personality disorder. The antisocial behavior cannot occur exclusively during the course of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. Moving on to the construct of psychopathy, we see here that psychopathy is an area that's studied, it's not a mental disorder. Someone can't really be diagnosed as having psychopathy or not, in a technical sense. Psychopathy affects about 1% of the population. In forensic settings about 16 percent of males are affected and about 7 percent of females are affected. Psychopathy can be divided into two factors and each of those factors can be divided into two facets. Factor one alone is sometimes referred to as psychopathy. Factor 2 is sometimes referred to as sociopathy. With psychopathy we have two factors and a total of four facets. Factor one is interpersonal/affective and factor two is referred to as social deviance. With the interpersonal facet we see certain characteristics like superficial charm, grandiosity, pathological lying, and a tendency to be manipulative. With the affective facet, we see a lack of remorse and shallow effect, callousness, lack of empathy. and a failure to accept responsibility. Moving to factor two (sociopathy) we see need for stimulation, parasitic lifestyle, lack of realistic long-term goals, impulsivity, irresponsibility, poor behavioral controls, early behavioral problems, juvenile delinquency, a revocation of conditional release, and criminal versatility.

Комментарии • 339

  • Emma Edin
    Emma Edin 13 дней назад

    What about the assessment tools Katie used? She admits to being able to simply sense if someone is a sociopath, which is to me an incredibly unethical practice. As a psychology student we constantly talk about qualitative AND quantitative DATA that support a possible diagnosis, and we formulate a conclusion after collecting the data. We also wanna give another possible diagnosis, and state what the reliability is of our data. Katie did non of that. She also lets an untrained person (Shane) do the asking and expects the answers/data to be reliable..
    How are clients supposed to trust us if they think we operate with this amount of carelessness?? Katie is really making a mess of the reputation of this whole field - and that is arguably the most unethical action of all.

  • Nancy Fregoso
    Nancy Fregoso 22 дня назад

    THANK YOU!!!!!!

  • Madeline Lore
    Madeline Lore 23 дня назад

    I’m an LPC and have been in the field for over 10 years. I love your channel and agree with your commentary on this topic. It saddens me that those videos may have painted the mental health field in a negative light. Thank you for your input.

  • Vanessa Paget
    Vanessa Paget 25 дней назад

    It's unethical in a documentary film-making sense, too. Nobody in the industry would ever get away with airing this, with uninformed contributors being manipulated as such.

  • Brian Rawcliffe
    Brian Rawcliffe 27 дней назад

    I think a major piece we are missing here is that Jake knows a lot more than what is being disclosed in regards to video content. It is very likely that Jake knows that Kati is a therapist and that she was working in the capacity as a consultant for the video. She talks about ethics on her channel on a regular basis, and many things are cut and edited for these videos. I feel like a lot of people fail to realize that videos like these are for entertainment purposes and it is very clear from all aspects that Kati is an LMFT and not a clinical psychologist who specializes in psychopathy, sociopathy, and APD. And if you listen to or speak with a number of different clinicians, each one has a different perspective of these. Kati simply had a perspective based on the DSM. He has a perspective based on research and a deeper knowledge. Other clinicians have a perspective based on their own experiences. Bottom line, the Jake Paul series is a dramatic series meant for entertainment and not educational purposes. It is very clear from his content that this is the case. And Kati made a video after the fact addressing the fact that his video was edited to be quite dramatic and she went on to reveal her true perspective on sociopathy. This is a prime example of why we shouldn’t judge a book by its cover. There is more information on each page. We don’t have access to the pages and therefore, cannot make a determination on anything.

  • The Narcissist's Scapegoat
    The Narcissist's Scapegoat 28 дней назад

    I keep reading Kari Morton's Underwear, I'm so sorry.

  • danni newman
    danni newman 28 дней назад

    As someone who is studying to be a mental health counselor, I was appalled by her role in the series, and how mental health was dealt with the entire series, just based on what I've learned and discussions I've had surrounding ethics and informed consent in my classes. Thank you so much for touching on this.

  • Ailuropoda melanoleuca Nineoneone
    Ailuropoda melanoleuca Nineoneone 28 дней назад

    what do you mean by why was she undercover they worried that if jake paul had the mental issues they thought he had if he knew there was a therapist hed then use up a fake persona to try to throw her off

  • Ailuropoda melanoleuca Nineoneone
    Ailuropoda melanoleuca Nineoneone 28 дней назад

    any one whos freaking out about this is silly it was perfect for jake paul since now he has a shield against people claiming he has different mental disorders

  • let88it88be
    let88it88be 29 дней назад

    I've been in therapy for 7 years and nothing Kati did really bothered me, besides some of the stuff that Shane clearly wanted her to do. The reason is because she wasn't a therapist in that video. She was a person leaning on her knowledge of mental health. I doubt she signed clinical confidentiality agreements with Jake, so she is not his therapist. She is simply a therapist who is advising on a entertainment series. Might this create some false and problematic perceptions about therapists? Possibly, but that doesn't automatically make it unethical to me.

  • tearsandsarcasm
    tearsandsarcasm 29 дней назад +1

    I was subscribed to her for a short while some months ago. I had to unsubscribe again after having followed her for a short while, I don’t remember exactly why though, but something about her approach made me uncomfortable. I have been following the Shane Series from the sidelines, but I have not watched it, I feel like the whole thing is kind of off.
    In a way it was as people say, a “mistake” that she participated in this series, but at the same time her doing that and then her subsequent response to criticism concerning her participation and the things she said, is something I feel like it’s good to know and for people to see and be aware of.
    I feel bad for her loyal fans who have gained something from her videos and are therefore now supporting her and enabling her in this, because she is encouraging them to do that by liking their comments. I feel like she’s handling this whole thing extremely irresponsibly, by taking the constructive criticisms as an attack on her as a person.
    This video is great, as was the previous one on this issue, will be subscribing! Professionalism is awesome and important.

  • Dana Scully
    Dana Scully 29 дней назад

    Can you do a video on Gender Dysphoria?

    • Dana Scully
      Dana Scully 28 дней назад

      +Dr. Todd Grande Thank you, I'd be very interested to hear a clinical, data-based perspective on an issue that our culture apparently deems controversial.

    • Dr. Todd Grande
      Dr. Todd Grande  28 дней назад +1

      Yes, I will add it to the production list. Thank you for the idea!

  • Stephen
    Stephen Месяц назад

    That's why I didnt like this angle Shane took...its like a conspiracy theorist who work backwards from their projected/desired outcome

  • Amber Pruitt
    Amber Pruitt Месяц назад

    I'm curious to know what you think about the Better Help fiasco in terms to the legal ease they have in their terms and if you think it's effective to do online counseling.

  • chocolate6560
    chocolate6560 Месяц назад

    Thank you for keeping this proffesional!

  • libertystarship
    libertystarship Месяц назад

    I hope Kati sees this, and watches it until the end. She dismissed all concerns as "bullies" and "haters" harassing her. It's a very serious and chilling issue.

  • alexis Juillard
    alexis Juillard Месяц назад +1

    Todd talks!!!

  • Alexis Aguirre
    Alexis Aguirre Месяц назад

    Please don't forget that all of that serie have a entretainment underline, And all of them have a role, a persona to play in this performance.

  • miraggg
    miraggg Месяц назад

    the way she continuously advertised for betterhelp, it doesnt surprise me that her standards are low

  • Michael Cain-Pruis
    Michael Cain-Pruis Месяц назад +2

    Thank god someone finally said it! I've been arguing with people on his videos that this would have to be unethical, regardless of their not being a specific client relationship established (which was the argument most gave). Deception is an unethical regardless. And she also publicly made assessments to millions of people acting as an expert, despite her specialisation in research being on eating disorders - not ASPD or psychopathy.
    You've 100% earned a subscriber in me and my respect for being just about the only person on RUclip to recognise this problem and make a video, so thank you!

  • Meia Krage
    Meia Krage Месяц назад

    I think her motive was to show Jake Paul was not a sociopath. And what she said outside of Shane’s editing was not shown. But I agree with your concerns, it misrepresents ethical therapy. It may potentially damage the trust a person in need should feel towards therapists.

  • Dinky Doo
    Dinky Doo Месяц назад

    I think what Kati did was totally unethical

  • Taylor Barnett
    Taylor Barnett Месяц назад

    OK why does this channel exist just to bash another person? Honestly get a life

    • Bin Midget
      Bin Midget 29 дней назад +1

      Taylor Barnett how was he bashing Kati. Who is just expressing concern toward the ethics that were used by kati in that episode. He’s not bashing anyone just expressing concern.

  • Turrzan
    Turrzan Месяц назад

    Your last video was great but I think you didn't seem to get the point of the series which is understandable because it's mainly for young people etc. But they were pushing him for answers because he was there for an interview. He was aware they wanted information from him that nobody knows about. He agreed to spill the beans about his personal life etc. This is what Shane Dawson does. Jake Paul doing this knew exactly what he was getting himself into - Shane will personally evaluate people he is interested about and makes a series about it. It is not a television show. This is RUclip. It's not professional or anything it's supposed to be raw because he wants to show his real reactions which viewers love. The video was not surprising at all for Shane's fans. He never once claimed he was diagnosing or anything like that. I would definitely not recommend doing this I think it's wrong but you also have to understand it's not supposed to be serious. I mean listen to the background music.

  • JLWH
    JLWH Месяц назад +1

    I will say what you don't feel that you can say, Dr. Grande. It was a "collaborative piece" meant to get all involved RUclip "views". It was over dramatized and faked scenario for the younger people as Jake Paul and others who want to believe Shane Dawson is "real". Shane (as much as I love his other videos and editing) is a view grabber as is Kati Morton (to sell her book etc.). There is NO way that others in that video with Morton under cover, didn't know who she was. It's all an illusion and nothing more.

  • Tanja F
    Tanja F Месяц назад

    I watched the series because it came to my attention that the Paul brothers were targeting children as their viewing audience and creating inappropriate content. As a parent, I wanted to know what that was and who these people are, what they are about without having to sit through all of their videos, so I could talk to my own children about it. My kids do not watch their videos but other kids around them have and make reference to them. I find Shane's video series to be useful in this context.
    My understanding of Kati's involvement is that earlier in the series Shane asked Kati if Logan or Jake could be dangerous and was apprehensive about walking into this situation because people in the Paul videos had been hit, spit on, etc. She agreed to observe to advise him to if he was in danger. But I agree that the actual video of the actual confrontation was edited to make her look creepy hanging out behind the scenes and she was feeding him questions. So is this a cross over between being a friend and her profession? I agree, that these videos could misrepresent professional therapists in a negative light. Thank you for making this video clarifying ethics.

  • Syno Nymous
    Syno Nymous Месяц назад

    Just sent this video to kati

  • Sara Scott
    Sara Scott Месяц назад

    I feel like you can't label this as appropriate or unethical, she's pushing boundaries for sure, but someone needs to in order to shed more light on the importance of mental health. The audience of jake Paul is pretty much the perfect group to show this to. That it doesn't have to be scary or embarrassing to have a therapist. That even the seemingly most confident of us need help, and we may not even realize. I saw it more as an intervention, trying to help with his addiction to attention. But on this big platform, it will open doors in this audiences' thoughts on the importance of mental health. Showing people there's nothing to be fearful of. That, much of the time, what you and others think of you is not how a professional would describe you. I think that what people take from this is on an individual basis. But those of us who are already mentally competent will judge her. But in the perspective of mini Jake Pauls, they will take comfort in Kati's role in the videos. I actually find her extremely brave for doing all of this, knowing the backlash she would face.

  • ByeBitch 《
    ByeBitch 《 Месяц назад

    This dude talks like a uni professor. Zzz.
    But smart guy, Shane should have tried for someone like him who actually knew what they were talking about, instead of having to haul around a book with them, that no doubt, gave her most of her "info".
    I don't know why they couldn't have just asked Jake for a good long sit with a (better) professional and recorded that if possible.

  • CaisieGrei
    CaisieGrei Месяц назад

    Ya i did think it was a bit sketch😕😕

  • FemBot
    FemBot Месяц назад +1

    I can 100% guarantee he knew everything beforehand. I cannot see Kati doing that. She was much more unprofessional when she gave an opinion video on Logan Paul after his suicide forest video fallout. I thought her negative opinion of him was highly unprofessional. Therapists should remain neutral on opinions of behaviours.

  • LynnMelo
    LynnMelo Месяц назад

    I'm not even too concerned about the ethical issues of the series because there's always the production safeguard that Shane and Jake can back up. What really steered the series away from the potential of this series is how Shane started with this Silence of the Lambs fear when that can be far from the case. I think a good way to understand the Pauls is to compare and contrast them to the JackAss crew. They are not a tribe of idiots who can just do weird stunts with the advised discretion to the audience. They are a family that understand hierarchal power, yet are not responsible for it. Not too mention that they are fresh experts of a new media platform, attracting all these beautiful new influencers and RUcliprs. (Regardless of what news articles say about RUclip, Hollywood and media influencers are still jumping into RUcliprs to make money of a young audience.)That's why Compton's video seems the most sincere of the series. Jake Paul is a guy who knows how to attract an audience, but's he irresponsible doing it like many young celebrities. So Shane should have never thought he would be meeting Hannibal Lecter because Jake is far from a sociopath and more of a Pauly Shore. I think all the psychology work was actually wasted.

  • Stella Annie
    Stella Annie Месяц назад

    *THANK YOU!*

  • J Aquino
    J Aquino Месяц назад +1

    She technically just observed the individual and it was agreed upon that a therapist could asses him no limits, while I do admit that it's pretty shady to be an undercover therapist but I feel like Jake wouldn't do anything crazy like file lawsuit and another thing is that Kati was really there with a rile of a friend more then a therapist so basically it's like bringing a smart friend to check something. Still I don't agree with this kind of action as it is a risky move and I think it could be done in a safer way.

  • Keyana Nicole
    Keyana Nicole Месяц назад

    One of my first comments when he stated his intention was ... “is it ethical to secretly have someone observed by a therapist 🧐???” Me thinks not

    • Keyana Nicole
      Keyana Nicole Месяц назад

      Maybe that’s why Shane was only able to get a clinician that specializes in eating disorders. I thought that was rather strange. Why not get someone who specializes in sociopathy to do this series..? Unless no one else agreed

  • St Pa
    St Pa Месяц назад +1

    You're so right with what you're saying!

  • Ashley K.
    Ashley K. Месяц назад +1

    Even if she is an LCSW, she would have to provide INFORMED consent.

  • Peter Nwachukwu
    Peter Nwachukwu Месяц назад +1

    1. Are you somehow related to Ariana Grande?
    2. Your glasses, I've been staring at it the whole time.
    3. You daddy cute

  • iamlight1
    iamlight1 Месяц назад

    I think that this is a lot of technical, text stuff. The thing is that Katie was not diagnosing, treating or even directly analyzing Jake; she was not interviewing him and her interactions were minimal. Her client, if she had one, was the person consulting her: Shane. He is the one asking her questions and so forth for his own inner search of sorts; she was just an observer of Shane's object of interest and she was helping him sort out his thing. Anyway; I think that Katie is a high person and she may have had reasons for participating; social media is becoming a big thing affecting many people, especially young people and Katie spoke publicly and decried earlier this year about Logan's filming the remains of a person who had committed suicide. She is a high soul and she probably gave some thought to this, I'm sure with good motives and reasons. Did she have to introduce herself by what she does for a living while present? I'm not sure, especially if she is not working directly with him but just observing.

  • hiyeonni
    hiyeonni Месяц назад

    Hello, Dr. Grande! I'm a social worker also making mental health videos on RUclip. I came across your videos recently and I wanted to say thank you for your videos on this platforms. It can be difficult receiving backlash that comes with commenting on "trending" topics, which leads to swarm of brash negative comments on your professionalism or comments. I experienced this recently as well due to my video I made on this series. I believe that it is important to spread awareness and advocacy regarding ethics of our field! Sorry this was so long, but thank you for your non-biased commentary - I agree with you completely and stand with you!

  • Olivia
    Olivia Месяц назад

    Dara Tah exposed that the college she went to didn't even have APA officiated courses. Doesn't sound too good to me.

  • Bianca Gonzalez
    Bianca Gonzalez Месяц назад +5

    The worst part of the whole series for me is that it implies that we need to slap labels like narcissist and sociopath in order to cut people out of our lives... some people are good or bad for us in relationships and we need to take charge of that without distancing ourselves through the use of labels

  • Lyndsay Kozakevich
    Lyndsay Kozakevich Месяц назад +1

    If you actually looked into it and received all information you would know that Jake was well aware of the situation and only a very very small part of Kati’s work was on film. None of her discussions with Jake were filmed. No one would have made a video like this if it was a male therapist. It feels like men are always trying to under-mind educated women. She was dumbing it down for the world to understand , which is in my opinion very okay. Shane’s channel is purely for entertainment not educational purposes.
    She doesn’t deserve so much negative criticism and she also didn’t ask for it. Her channel is being attacked and you are feeding into the negativity which isn’t kind or fair.

  • Saani Maula
    Saani Maula Месяц назад

    It is a shame that you you have a relatively low viewer count and subscriber. While I am sure my own opinions about the whole kati morton/betterhelp topic is a strong factor, I am really enjoying your videos and your channel as a whole. You earned my subscription :) Really hope your channel gets bigger

  • krista graverson
    krista graverson Месяц назад +1

    Some deception is allowed when it’s absolutely necessary for research. I think for a video with the purpose of entertainment it’s okay. She’s just observing natural behaviors. She’s not manipulating anything in the video setting.

  • AnnaCarenina
    AnnaCarenina Месяц назад

    I appreciate your mannerism in this video. Thank you for this well informed and well mannered video.

  • Aaliyah Williams
    Aaliyah Williams Месяц назад +1

    I’m really coming to appreciate your channel I hope more people do too. It would be very interesting to see your/scientific views regarding the Better Help service that Shane Dawson was originally promoting in the series regarding Sociopaths/Jake Paul. Thank you for great content.

    • Aaliyah Williams
      Aaliyah Williams 28 дней назад

      Oh brilliant, can't wait!

    • Dr. Todd Grande
      Dr. Todd Grande  28 дней назад +1

      You're welcome! I am hoping to produce a video about Betterhelp soon.

  • Jeremy Houtsma
    Jeremy Houtsma Месяц назад

    As another therapist I believe this was COMPLETELY unethical in what she did. There are ALOT of problems with her behavior. He was not under her treatment, this was not a forensic interview and I believe Katie knew the entire time what Shane was going to do. If she didn't then she was grossly negligent in the handling of the information being provided and grossly negligent with talking with Shane about what he planned to do with the footage and how he planned to eventually use it. I feel she needs to be reported and the incident evaluated by a board at best.

  • Faith Bartlett
    Faith Bartlett Месяц назад

    Im doing A Level psychology (below university!) and even i know and have been taught that stuff like this requires informed consent. Where's hers when she's sneaking around pretending to be "a friend"?! She just keeps making broad assumptions whilst clinging to the DSM and saying personality disorders aren't her specialty, well clearly not...

  • Momma Bear
    Momma Bear Месяц назад

    I think if I were a patient of Katie’s, I’d be looking for a new therapist.

  • Momma Bear
    Momma Bear Месяц назад

    At the very very least, Katie’s behavior is thoughtless and immature. And I find the fact that she’s employing such tactics to assess someone’s mental/emotional condition to be ironic. She might want to look within and gather her bearings.

  • Farida Varfis
    Farida Varfis Месяц назад +1

    Please take a look at her "thumbnails". Is that how a mental health professional is supposed to come across?

  • Jim Y
    Jim Y Месяц назад

    And as an ethical Doctor I am not here to attach my name to the names of Jake Paul or Shane Dawson. Because I care so much about ethics I could not do a video about the ethics of a person going undercover to analyze someone without using specific names. To do so would not bring my channel the larger number of views by attaching those names.

  • Bailey
    Bailey Месяц назад

    Really? Clergy (position in religion) in in the top 10 jobs, that sociopaths choose. The internet is there at your disposal, use it.

  • Spikeygal
    Spikeygal Месяц назад

    Re: the leaders of religion/business thing, it might be that she's misremembering some conclusions from books such as The Psychopath Test?

  • Person McPerson
    Person McPerson Месяц назад +5

    Wonderful video. Thank you for providing an object and professional take on this. The sensationalization portrayed in Shane’s video is giving mental health professionals a bad name, in my opinion.

    • Person McPerson
      Person McPerson 28 дней назад

      Dr. Todd Grande Oh gosh, I’m honoured. Didn’t think you’d notice this haha. Keep doing good work, is all I can say. Currently a college student who wants to do good work in the medical field too.

    • Dr. Todd Grande
      Dr. Todd Grande  28 дней назад

      You're welcome!

  • Kat Safari Meditation
    Kat Safari Meditation Месяц назад

    Thank you so much for this. You put your case forward very clearly. As a registered Dramatherapist in the UK I had a high level of concern around the role boundaries, ethical practise, level of experience and transparency of the therapist. Of course we don’t know if Jake was in on the whole thing or not, but regardless of this, the programme was aired to a massive audience, some of whom may have misperception of ‘social paths’ and/or what therapy is, what a therapists code of ethics, boundaries and responsibilities are. This programme showed the viewer not just stereotypes of social paths but also of therapist, that they are sneaky, they are trying to get something out of you, which might put someone off of engaging in therapy. Also if you have no experience of therapy you make think all therapists behave like this or it is ok for a therapist to have unclear boundaries. I just hope a lot of people did research afterwards and found videos like yours to gain clarity of the situation x

  • Ms Inkypunk
    Ms Inkypunk Месяц назад +2

    I forgave Kati for the first video she appeared in, I merely blamed it on Shane's horror movie-esque editing. I didn't take it seriously. I've found Shane's series quite entertaining, but I really wish Kati hadn't joined in. Her information was very misleading and hyped Shane up the wrong way. It's all reflected really badly on her and she didn't even contribute much IMO. Then you see everyone's diagnosing themselves or others in the comment section based on her opinion (which she has said is not her professional opinion, but Shane certainly framed it that way). I know it's not to be taken too seriously and you can't believe everything someone says just because they seem to be an authority, Jake Paul clearly isn't a sociopath and he was never going to be revealed as one otherwise the series wouldn't exist, but there are a lot of kids watching and taking it all at face value. Yes we should be having more conversations about mental health, but we don't need people flinging accusations. I'm fairly certain Shane's intention was to combat baselessly accusing people of personality disorders, and I'm not sure yet if he's made it better or worse.
    The line that really got me was Kati's comment that she felt sorry for Jake, therefore he must be manipulative. That was straight up paranoia. She's either acting or terribly biased against even a perceived case of ASPD. Maybe it's all staged and she had consent all along, but it still looks really bad. A therapist shouldn't be pulling stunts either way.

  • Josh H
    Josh H Месяц назад +2

    I really can’t stand this woman. I’ve watched all of the videos in the series so far and she acts like an immature teenager. Completely unprofessional and unethical rather than a mental health professional. It seems to me like she’s chasing fame and views for her RUclip channel, and that her professional ethics come secondary to that.

  • Carol Carol
    Carol Carol Месяц назад

    Perhaps Kati made an all too human mistake in being involved in the Shane Dawson sideshow (after all any therapist is but human)....BUT I believe you keep on making posts about it just to ride on the coat tails of two very popular RUcliprs...getting subscribers or views by using this topic and their names.....have a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you are really doing this and what it says about you....then move on.

  • Zan
    Zan Месяц назад +2

    She didn't appear to be very knowledgeable in this particular field, constantly reading from books. Her advice and information was incredibly unethical in the way it was presented, that it almost makes her appear unprofessional and unqualified. I have dealt with numerous clinician's in my life, none of which had acted in the way that she did in those videos. Unfortunately she made the wrong call by being apart of these videos in the way she did.

  • Vittoria Hawksworth
    Vittoria Hawksworth Месяц назад

    Hello Dr Grande, this is very interesting. I am in England so I do not really know about this program or about Kati Morton however recently, the Guardian newspaper here ran an article about people who do V-logs and the pressure they are under to maintain the audience numbers against the algorithms etc. Kati Morton was quoted with a photo! There must be a lot of pressure to maintain your audience...

  • Aileen Rosenberg
    Aileen Rosenberg Месяц назад

    So why hasn't someone tagged her license? Why hasn't she been reported to the Department of Professional Regulation?

  • Florence H
    Florence H Месяц назад

    Hi, I never usually leave public comments but I just needed to voice my opinion for this. I see that you have a couple videos about things Kati Morton has done wrong. It seems to me that you have a bit of a prejudice. Would you have made so many videos about her if she was a him? I don’t think you’d be so eager to pounce on the little things in her videos if she was male. I’m not saying you’re doing this on purpose, but I am suggesting that it might be subconscious. I’d encourage you to back off a little bit and be more accepting about the fact that she’s a female and doing great work. Thanks.

  • Laura Kratovil
    Laura Kratovil Месяц назад

    Sooooowhy do y’all not realize Shane’s documentary is ENTERTAINMENT ONLY. It is NOT an educational documentary. Stop acting like it should have been.

  • Sapphire The Dragon
    Sapphire The Dragon Месяц назад +1

    Great video Dr. Grande! Once again, you did great.

  • ZeroSilence91
    ZeroSilence91 Месяц назад +1

    Ironically, in a roundabout way, Shane releasing a video for entertainment has led to a large increase in discussion about therapy, mental health, and overall awareness of ethical well-being. Was this all planned that way? D:

  • spacemantango
    spacemantango Месяц назад +4

    The whole situation upsets me as a mental health patient. I can't believe a professional would do something like this. Trust is such an important part of the relationship between a patient and medical professional.

  • dark tonny
    dark tonny Месяц назад +1

    When you meet a sociopath they appear nice and kind but then she said she's surprised how nice jake is...isn't that dumb

  • jennifer Loy fairhurst
    jennifer Loy fairhurst Месяц назад

    Confidentiality is key!

  • Darrel William
    Darrel William Месяц назад

    Could Kati get in legal trouble for this?

  • GraceanneParks
    GraceanneParks Месяц назад +10

    Dr. 👏🏼Todd 👏🏼Grande 👏🏼ain't 👏🏼playin' 👏🏼he 👏🏼brought 👏🏼facts

  • Georgia J
    Georgia J Месяц назад +2

    I really like Kati's content and she seems warm and easy to talk to in her videos.
    However it saddens me to say I don't think she should have been involved at all in this batch of videos.
    Her description of sociopathy was not politically correct and some may say "she isn't working, let her say what she really thinks" .Although I see this point of view it just doesn't quite sit right with me. What if she has a client who has been diagnosed with anti social personality disorder and they have seen her calling there individuals who have this disorder "gross" . I just think she has potentially done herself unnecessary harm stating these opinions. And for what purpose? 😐 Being featured in content with higher viewing figures? I truly don't understand it, Kati's own content is viewed by plenty of people where she seems highly professional but personable. I just think her insults singling out individuals with one disorder reflects badly on her and it's needless and a shame.
    Concealing she was a therapist and lying about her profession to me was deeply unethical even though she is not officially 'in work' at that particular time. She was still offering her professional opinion regarding someone's mental health without that individuals knowledge or consent. There is no way that is ethical.
    Excuse the long post Doctor! To conclude I don't think Kati is a ' bad therapist ' at all, I just think she made some errors in judgement as we are all capable of doing.To err is human after all. I just think these lapses in judgement could have been easily avoided.

  • Aimi Aimi
    Aimi Aimi Месяц назад +3

    The voice of reason. Thank you for pulling me back from giving up on the world.

  • nuria p
    nuria p Месяц назад +3

    I was wondering how this undercover-therapy-thing should work or be ethical at all... I really appreciate this video and its explanatory intention. Thank you!

  • Mina V
    Mina V Месяц назад +1

    I think the way Kati Morton handled things are unethical and Shane Dawson also shares the blame because of the way the video was edited.

  • K Noelle
    K Noelle Месяц назад +5

    It seemed extremely unethical to me.

  • Ruby Age 24
    Ruby Age 24 Месяц назад

    This series has been a weird witch-hunt which has put people who genuinely have ASPD at risk.

  • Humza Lodhi
    Humza Lodhi Месяц назад

    Hello sir.thankgod for this shane and jake thing which helped me and others find you.i really hope you see this and respond cos this way id know if i could contact you to ask for more help with something personal.could you please talk about d.i.d and check out a channel named 'fae system' and analyse what they are all about.i know you wont name the channel so just name the video about d.i.d and talk about the channel in a generic way.really hope to see your video :)

  • Marjolaine Daudrumez
    Marjolaine Daudrumez Месяц назад +2

    Wow this is so unethical!! She could lose her license over this.

  • Unceremonious
    Unceremonious Месяц назад

    It seems obvious, even without knowing the intricacies of being a therapist, that setting someone up in this manner and making a spectacle out of it for social media is unethical (for all involved). People should not be subjected to anything of this sort without their knowledge and consent.

  • TheInternet Sucks
    TheInternet Sucks Месяц назад +24

    Her behavior on social media is strange considering the fact that she is a therapist. She blocks people, deletes comments, thinks people are bullying her when they simply disagree with her. Makes her look a bit unstable.

    • zsdman
      zsdman Месяц назад +2

      TheInternet Sucks Yes as a PhD Biopsychologist I agree

  • Rachel Martin
    Rachel Martin Месяц назад

    I’m a research assistant as part of a developmental disabilities team and found her poor knowledge of the research area very concerning - even just basic info such as the prevalence of sociopathy and likely prognosis. The lack of informed consent is also a huge breach imo and may cause backlash for the mental health community.

  • Renee Renee
    Renee Renee Месяц назад +5

    I’ve worked in mental health for 20 years and believe her role was totally unethical and unprofessional

  • Ryan Muskin
    Ryan Muskin Месяц назад

    Therapists that publicly misinform the public like Katie Morton has are damaging the field of psychology and hurting all credibility. This really disgusts me as I work in the mental health field and understand that everyone is required to receive ethical training and certificates. She was ethically trained and she clearly has broken this code. I believe her license should be revoked.

  • SunshineGirl
    SunshineGirl Месяц назад

    do you think you can review the new BETTER HELP program. 65$ weekly on unlimited counselling with a therapist.

    • SunshineGirl
      SunshineGirl Месяц назад

      Thank you. over this weekend, I have tried to pretend to sign up. I was assigned a therapist from florida who had her Masters degree in education (counselling). However I did not complete the application because Better Help charges $65 weekly for unlimited counselling and that they "decline" patients who are in crisis or suicidal. My concern with the fee was that if you are busy or ill or unable to meet that week, Better help still charges for that week. For me personally, I do not think I need to see a therapist weekly but rather I prefer bi weekly. I wish they offered levels of therapy so perhaps offering a number of sessions per month.

    • Dr. Todd Grande
      Dr. Todd Grande  Месяц назад +1

      I am going to see what I can find out. I have had many requests for a video on this topic.

  • SunshineGirl
    SunshineGirl Месяц назад

    next collab. kati mortion session with jake paul. just imagine. well would it be consent if he told shane do whatever you want? I think consent was given in the end.

  • snoot mcgoot
    snoot mcgoot Месяц назад

    I was so, so shocked that Kati participated in this video, and by the behaviour, she engaged in. There is absolutely no justification for her behaviour in this video series, and it is absolutely appalling that she is defending her decision to engage in this unethical behaviour. It is mind-boggling to me that she thinks this is an okay thing to do, especially considering her work to reduce mental health stigma.
    There is nothing more stigmatizing to people with mental illnesses than to see other people be victims of concealed diagnosis, and to have your mental health publically critiqued and 'diagnosed' (which they were doing despite their disclaimers) without your consent. It invokes more fear of seeking out help for your mental health when you see others being judged and scrutinized for what should be a private session without their consent.
    This isn't about Jake Paul or whether he actually does struggle with a mental illness or other conditions - this is about a therapist who has established herself as a professional with a role of authority using her power and privilege to harm others. I had to unsubscribe from her considering her unethical behaviour, and unrepentant attitude. Thanks so much for this video - as an aspiring clinician/counsellor, and as someone who has mental illnesses, I really appreciate this thoughtful and considerate analysis.

  • Yvonne Rodriquez
    Yvonne Rodriquez Месяц назад

    Very interesting. I would be very interested in knowing the opinion from a professional that is equipped to asses Katie appropriate or inappropriate behavior in this case. I think that an assessment of any professional should be with all the necessary information available to conclude an accurate assessment not just what one has on hand. Not responsible to anyone to do so otherwise.

  • Be2cre8
    Be2cre8 Месяц назад +12

    I am an LMFT and have reported my concerns to the California board. Ms. Morton is now addressing her "haters". She is degrading the profession. Whether there were agreements or not, she stated that she would not be transparent. Katie originally [ep 2] states that she can intuitively diagnose a sociopath. She is the one that suggests her anonymity to Jake Paul. It is in E. 5 that she suggests being Shane's producer. This is a very negative commentary on our profession And all the points that you address I have notified the board about right after ep. 5. Comments under the videos are concerning. It is creating potential bullying in the schools. People are saying things like "I have been diagnosed with sociopathy, and I am not a killer. This video makes me upset." The disclaimers were put in after complaints from the first video. However, they are not sufficient. The first video got 10 million views in the first 15 hours. -----apart from what you said, Dawson has crossed journalistic and documentary ethics. He is not either one of these but surely poses as one. This is all creating an unprecedented paradigm and a great concern for the stigma of mental health. The defending videos of Morton and Dawson just make it worse. And in this case Morton holds the professional responsibility because she knows the ethics. Dawson was mislead.

    • Momma Bear
      Momma Bear Месяц назад

      Be2cre8 thank you! 👏🏻 👏🏻

  • Penny A
    Penny A Месяц назад +5

    Found you through all this Shane Dawson drama and I’m so excited to watch all your videos on BPD and learn more about something I was diagnosed with a couple of years ago and still don’t fully understand

  • Turquoise Cheetah
    Turquoise Cheetah Месяц назад +5

    Everyone thinks that just because we aren't professionals in the field that we can't completely see the unethical and unprofessional attitude of this woman throughout the entire series. WELL blind fans, here is an actual professional with HIGHER education than Kati who is discussing her behavior. Thank you for addressing this, you earned a sub from me!

    • Turquoise Cheetah
      Turquoise Cheetah Месяц назад

      You're welcome! Your channel is a pleasure and I've loved every video I've seen so far. You truly earn your subscribers :).

    • Dr. Todd Grande
      Dr. Todd Grande  Месяц назад

      You're welcome! Thank you so much!

  • null
    null Месяц назад

    Dr Grande, thank you for your concise analysis! In regards to Jake Paul, is 'sociopath' the accurate ballpark for assessment or does this seem like NPD?

  • Hope Flynn
    Hope Flynn Месяц назад +3

    Can she even give a diagnosis if she’s not a psychologist?

    • Hope Flynn
      Hope Flynn Месяц назад +1

      +Dr. Todd Grande Thanks! For some reason I thought it was only the PhD or PsyD level. I really enjoy your videos by the way!

    • Dr. Todd Grande
      Dr. Todd Grande  Месяц назад +6

      In most areas, a clinician licensed at the master's-level (e.g. LPC, LCSW, LMFT) can diagnose.

  • stargirl13n1
    stargirl13n1 Месяц назад +18

    I don’t know why it’s so funny to hear someone talk about Shane’s video with such professionalism. It almost feels like I’m reading a research paper on the video. “An individual named Jake Paul” LOL this is no offense, I love it!

  • Shannonlovesth
    Shannonlovesth Месяц назад +17

    Kati Morton needs her license revoked. She is extremely unethical. Not just in this Shane Dawson series but also in her previous videos and social media profiles. She carries herself as a psychologist (when she is just a therapist), often diagnosing and making very broad statements about other disorders. She often uses the disclaimer “this is not my area of expertise” before making sometimes false statements or clearly opinionated statements about disorders. She also likes to throw the DSM around way to much as a reference to back up her claims.

    • zsdman
      zsdman Месяц назад +6

      Shannonlovesth Yes as a PhD Biopsychologist I have researched the DSM extensively. It is widely used and cited but has NO scientific credibility or reliability. Kati Morton has no background in research and just reiterates what she has been taught. With all the utube presentations she does and so called inexpensive text therapy how do vulnerable young people know that she really knows what she is talking about based on real patient experience?? I trust more Daniel Mackler who was a former therapist and really struggled with his experience with real clients and therapists.

  • Courtney🌠Shain
    Courtney🌠Shain Месяц назад

    Yikes. I personally just think it was a bad choice on her part to participate. However, I believe her and Shane go back a bit and she was doing this to more or less do him a favor as a friend. It was a poor choice, but we are all mistake makers so...yeah. It's cringe worthy material.

  • aed thekidd
    aed thekidd Месяц назад +1

    i’m glad i stumbled across your channel even if it happened to be due to controversy in the community. i’m excited to explore your channel further.

  • aed thekidd
    aed thekidd Месяц назад

    wow, so could this get her license revoked? i mean if she really is undercover and that’s not just to spice up the video (even so, she’s lost a lot of credibility by doing this)... it didn’t sit well with me at all when Shane mentioned her possibly coming undercover in the first few episodes, but i honestly thought he was joking and that he wouldn’t really do that. when the last episode came out and that was the case, i was disappointed. gave me a very sour taste in my mouth.
    but i mean she can’t be that dull? i really don’t mean that to be rude... but if she is clearly going against multiple items in the code of ethics while allowing this to be not only documented but broadcasted to at least the 18 million people that follow Shane... what was she thinking?!

  • Natalie Murphy
    Natalie Murphy Месяц назад +15

    Well said. In today's world it's usually not the professional voices that are heard the most, just the most popular ones, which can be quite a problem with misinformation. I hope more people see this video. Thanks, Dr. Grande!