Eli Saslow & Derek Black - From Racism to Redemption in “Rising Out of Hatred” | The Daily Show

  • Опубликовано: 25 сен 2018
  • Eli Saslow and ex-white nationalist Derek Black describe Derek’s upbringing, how he came to break from the white nationalist community and the best way to fight intolerance.
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  • ChannelMath
    ChannelMath 18 часов назад

    my question would be: what do you think of people who dont' care about minorities, and also don't care about whites. they only care about their own family. Are they better or worse than a white nationalist?
    Also, are there any examples of someone who became a white racist later in life (not in prison)?

  • Willie
    Willie 6 дней назад

    I just met up with with his younger sister 2 weeks ago in Tennessee

  • kamva Allan
    kamva Allan 16 дней назад


  • Rose Wallace
    Rose Wallace 18 дней назад

    this interview fills me with hope for the world!

  • Narayani Gaia
    Narayani Gaia 19 дней назад

    It is beautiful to see this conversation and humility of Derek Black. My heart opens to him to see him telling his story even though it must be difficult. . Is Derek Black really his name? Thanks Trevor!

  • Omar Grimmett
    Omar Grimmett 20 дней назад


  • segafan93
    segafan93 23 дня назад

    He's doing this to get into a position of public exposure to reveal that he still believes what he always has.

  • Justin Asten
    Justin Asten 24 дня назад

    Wow, incredible interview

  • batscatsrats
    batscatsrats 25 дней назад

    wow that was easy. derek black is my new hero. that takes real integrity

  • koft2009
    koft2009 25 дней назад

    That was fascinating and eye-opening. Great interview!

  • ZA
    ZA 25 дней назад

    Is funny how I saw a few docs about southern areas in US, what terrifies them the most is when they have to send their kids to college. thats why homeschooling unfortunately is so popular there. also NOTE other extremes like the girls from Westboro Baptist Church left the church after college expanded their mind.

  • Dan McGuire
    Dan McGuire 26 дней назад

    Wow, I got chills. This is truly awesome!

  • tomb613
    tomb613 Месяц назад

    Redemption needs to start somewhere. The fact this young man was able to break his programming is hope for us all. Racism is the tool of the super wealthy and it keeps the masses from joining together to fight against the real enemy, classism. "You got to keep em separated....."

  • circa dian
    circa dian Месяц назад

    I always think about this quote that says “If you’re dumb, surround yourself with smart people. If you’re smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you.”
    This is what happens when you do that. When you open up, everyone gets better. Everyone benefits.

  • Nick Bernard
    Nick Bernard Месяц назад

    187 people disliked this. They should immediately be placed under the FBI watch.

  • klwarren169
    klwarren169 Месяц назад

    WOW! David Dukes's son. Wait...what you know about the South side of Chicago?! I'm gonna look him up.

  • Colleen Kelly
    Colleen Kelly Месяц назад

    Explains a lot!!!

  • Shelly L
    Shelly L Месяц назад

    One thing they don't mention in this interview is the school he went to was New College of Florida
    I went there for several years and it is a truly incredible and inspiring community of young people who consistently push for change and I think it is worth recognizing!

  • priscilla birungi
    priscilla birungi Месяц назад

    This is a better take on injustices I've seen. The ones gaining are the better equipped to effect change, but change is hard, so very hard even when it is good and humane, so this man is an inspiration to me from now till.

  • EU BR
    EU BR Месяц назад +1

    It is not my fault that I was born as a white woman... or this is / was a God` mistake? I have never gone into such black & white extreme in my life!
    It is so obvious that Trevor - is carrying such a huge package of the apartheid ! Kind of leading into it .. back again!

  • 'Shakil HC'
    'Shakil HC' Месяц назад

    This guy has the same "white voice" as Trevor 🤣

  • Victor Jones
    Victor Jones Месяц назад

    Dear Meghan Kelly, This is what an interview looks like. Remember this the next time you interview DL Hughley or discuss blackface.

  • A Thug By choice
    A Thug By choice Месяц назад

    This show needs an Emmy!

  • Nicole Wulff
    Nicole Wulff Месяц назад

    Really Sad. .🖒

  • Jackie Santangelo
    Jackie Santangelo Месяц назад

    A courageous author, an inspiring young man (Bravo) and Trevor; thank you for bringing this amazing journey to me ;-)

  • Ogechukwu Okpala
    Ogechukwu Okpala Месяц назад

    The non-truth question is very interesting 🤔

  • purpleguddess
    purpleguddess Месяц назад

    “Being silent is a choice” very powerful stuff.
    I am glad he sees the truth and isn’t scared to speak on it, like most white people.

  • Simply Yutune
    Simply Yutune Месяц назад

    I don’t get it when people hate immigrants, people with different race, faith, etc that much. I hate criminals.. . But immigrants who work and pay tax, they help country they live in. If we spend time to visit to community that we have no idea who they are, what they do.. we will realize that we are all same. We grow love for the country we live in. Because it is our home. We want people all over the world have good life, being treated fairly. Humans are dangerous when they don’t know „wisdom“.

  • Silque Black
    Silque Black Месяц назад

    14:29 THere is a dormant unseen power which can be tapped into to feed hatred. It is so insidious that it causes one to pretend that this dormant unseen power does not exist as to encourage a person to use escapism .... and by any means necessary to ignore the "dirty" to be able to live in a more comfortable bubble instead of facing reality. Facing and confronting racism does not cause racism, it exposes it... much in the same way that light removes darkness so that the "dirty" can be seen and then cleaned.

    BLACK PANTHER Месяц назад

    Derek Black, an intelligent man!! Salute.

  • Safia Smiles
    Safia Smiles Месяц назад

    Amazing, just wow. Wow

  • mrswhatevernc
    mrswhatevernc Месяц назад

    It must have been hard to leave his family. What an amazing person! So brave!

  • Lacey LH
    Lacey LH Месяц назад

    Wow! That was a really important conversation Noah had with Black and Saslow. Noah asked the questions I wanted to hear the answers to. He's so good at that. And Black made some strong points about how being white nationalist vs. anti-racist is easier because then a person doesn't have to admit anything needs to change, or make change. It's easier to be conplacent and say nothing letting racisim continue. And how important it is, as a white person, to speak up and defuse an escalating racist conversation. Brilliant!

  • J. Arias
    J. Arias Месяц назад

    Derek Black closing comment was a shocker but makes sense. Only White can shut White down, they’re equal in their mind. Very very good interview with Eli as well, thanks.

  • Jessica Eblen
    Jessica Eblen Месяц назад

    What a great peace...

  • Anakae Wiles
    Anakae Wiles Месяц назад

    This was such an important conversation. Wow, I am completely flabbergasted.

  • savana196
    savana196 Месяц назад

    im so gonna read that book now

  • Smoove Tone
    Smoove Tone Месяц назад

    Wow, this was an amazing piece. This type of informative segment should get and Emmy.

  • miss Massey
    miss Massey Месяц назад

    Derek Black Is cute😍❤😁

  • OpqHMg
    OpqHMg Месяц назад

    Haha and Trump has since already declared himself a nationalist

  • Do Robin
    Do Robin Месяц назад

    Very interesting, Thank you. I wonder if Derek BLACK saw the Charles WHITE exhibit at MoMA... ;D Charles Withe was a great black american artist, he drew only black people.

  • Mlungisi Dlamini
    Mlungisi Dlamini Месяц назад

    What a blessing to see and witness something like this. May God protect you brother Derek. Love from South africa

  • Zambia Union Of Financial Institutes and Allied Workers

    Derek Black, brave man I pray you have a blessed long wonderful life....Trevor you have now amassed a large global responsibility for the people of colour and white community....large responsibility..

  • M Jave
    M Jave Месяц назад +1

    How strong he is to fight his own beliefs 🤷‍♂️✌🏻

  • lemonflower
    lemonflower Месяц назад

    Derek is really intelligent and inspirational. You can see the pain in his face when his former racist talking points were mentioned. I have a lot of respect for him.

  • nii amon
    nii amon Месяц назад

    All I will say is demnnnnnnnnn

  • LaShawn Royale
    LaShawn Royale Месяц назад

    This sounds good, in fact sounds great, however... Black people stay being DUPED. WHITE friends have historically cashed out on us. Would love this to truly be a safe space but...idk🙄 I say to BLACK people, focus on what we need to do and let WHITE people do their thing and hopefully the two can jell.

  • Maria Hartisch
    Maria Hartisch Месяц назад

    How comes they show publicity for "USCCA" a guide for how to get away with shooting on this channel?

  • Batgirl P
    Batgirl P Месяц назад

    I'm glad trevor didn't go for the laugh.
    I wonder what it would take to change the minds of the garden variety racists we work with every day. The doctors, the lawyers, the Bankers, The police officers, the grocery store tellers....

  • Ray Shepherd
    Ray Shepherd Месяц назад

    God is real man. Thank you Trevor Noah and thank you Derek Black🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • Alex Larson
    Alex Larson Месяц назад

    Trevor is an incredible interviewer! He did a fantastic job in this interview!!

  • Coyote 50
    Coyote 50 Месяц назад

    Wow! We need more stories like this. Thank you Eli for your incredible work and thank you Derek for having the courage to change. This is how we change society.

  • ResistCom
    ResistCom Месяц назад

    Joe Kennedy told West Hooker:
    "We're not going to fight the Jews,
    we're going to work with them."
    How did that work out, Joe?

  • shell7324
    shell7324 Месяц назад

    Y0U are a disgusting human. Just disgusting.

  • Denice Lewis
    Denice Lewis Месяц назад

    "Speak up because being silent is a choice"... wow!

  • Britt Waller
    Britt Waller Месяц назад

    Wow, this conversation. When he said it easier to be a white nationalist than an anti racist. That is something slot of white people don't seem to understand that us minorities see and challenge. Because America has these beliefs, the comfort is racism and thinking it's right. challenging those thoughts are difficult. Everyone needs to hear him speak.

  • Clouds In houtx
    Clouds In houtx Месяц назад

    LMFAO. I sat here looking at those two and thought, wow that guy looks like he'd be a white supremacist, and 10 seconds later, "oh btw hes the god son of david duke" lawl. Not hard to spot.

  • Vicky Blue
    Vicky Blue Месяц назад

    Wow this guy is so enlightened now. Impressive , because it's not easy.

  • krisklev
    krisklev Месяц назад

    OMG a human changed his mind. The end times are here

  • Jay Ahmed
    Jay Ahmed Месяц назад

    Best interview I’ve ever seen on this show

  • Larry Fox
    Larry Fox Месяц назад

    Maybe there is hope in the young...

  • Rachel Marie-Pfeifer
    Rachel Marie-Pfeifer Месяц назад

    So beautiful

  • koboldnational
    koboldnational Месяц назад

    Thank you, Mr Black, for being so brave. It is unbelievable hard to change a belief system that was ingrained into your core being. I have massive respect for you!

  • John Ezeanochie
    John Ezeanochie Месяц назад

    Do you know how many more Derek blacks are being groomed to sneak into positions of power......that should make us worry for the FUTURE!!!

  • UnicornsAreNice
    UnicornsAreNice Месяц назад

    Awesome. Props to TDS for booking interesting ppl with important stories!

  • Mr X
    Mr X Месяц назад

    Racisms is a cowardly way of life. You can talk all that hateful shit. But when a colored person is around. They hold it in. While I keep my head up ☝

  • Veronica Crespo
    Veronica Crespo Месяц назад


  • Shani Smith
    Shani Smith Месяц назад

    He had a "Paul" conversion... spiritual almost I'd say. Very interesting story Id be interested in reading the book.

  • moontraveller
    moontraveller Месяц назад

    Truly educational and inspiring! Kudos to Derek and others who are making this challenging leap.

  • enrique gallegos
    enrique gallegos Месяц назад

    This dude is playing all of you! He still is a racist but he is smart and playing everyone!!

  • Carla Meister
    Carla Meister Месяц назад

    Get enough snowflakes together and you better believe that snow will bury your ass

  • ciel Ho
    ciel Ho Месяц назад +1

    goosebumps thats why I always say our environment especially in childhood is important because it sets what is normal for us

  • Sojourner Songs
    Sojourner Songs Месяц назад

    Just Wow

  • Edie Heirris Heiris
    Edie Heirris Heiris Месяц назад

    Derek Black should really be proud of his growth.

  • Bonnie Robinson
    Bonnie Robinson Месяц назад

    Awesome interview.

    MIKE VON BACH Месяц назад

    some people do in fact have a higher intelligence quotient. And it tends to be people that are immigrants. REMEMBER HISTORY FAVORS THE BOLD.

  • Tebigong101
    Tebigong101 Месяц назад +1

    What he learned at college by being exposed to different people and realizing that these differences are just a variation on the same theme, ways of being human. This is the importance of media representation for marginalized people overall but people of color in particular because in some parts of America there may be no Asians, blacks, or Latinos for you to get to know as people so videos, series, and movies might be the only way to get a nuanced representation of them.

  • Sara Danhoff
    Sara Danhoff Месяц назад

    I think one of the most dangerous and bolstering facets of white nationalism comes from the pseudoacademic legitimization of it via false and misrepresented statistics. The only thing deadlier than ignorance is well crafted disinformation.

  • Teri Williams
    Teri Williams Месяц назад

    Proud of him; hopefully his father grows a change of heart.

  • Els Jap A Joe
    Els Jap A Joe Месяц назад

    Funny that the nsme of the man Black !

  • Jennifer
    Jennifer Месяц назад

    I think it is very worthwhile to mention that this brave man probably has some vestigial prejudices, but his journey is trending in the right direction.
    When we encounter people with prejudice

  • James Osborne
    James Osborne Месяц назад

    Great interview!!!!!!

  • DrKumkar
    DrKumkar Месяц назад

    that zoom tho

  • Laura Vivas
    Laura Vivas Месяц назад +3

    What a powerful and moving discussion.

  • Alek Goral
    Alek Goral Месяц назад +1

    This is a very productive interview. It's easy to hate David Duke and what he stands for, what's difficult is to try and teach people not to be racist. If you understand why they're racist, you stand a better chance of convincing them not to be racist, and then they won't pass it on to their own children.

  • mangoesandgrapes
    mangoesandgrapes Месяц назад +2

    both so articulate and courageous. I deeply admire both men - Derek for being willing to share his story, and Eli for sharing it so eloquently with the world

  • Chris Ruby
    Chris Ruby Месяц назад +1

    This was powerful great job guys

  • Becca.LAGirl
    Becca.LAGirl Месяц назад +2

    Amazing discussion!

  • Jason Waltman
    Jason Waltman Месяц назад

    I found Trevor's last question about Derek and trusting his current beliefs very interesting. His response seems much like someone who changes their religious outlook as they grow.

  • Nihm
    Nihm Месяц назад +1

    If you want to change your society, start by casting your vote and getting involved. Hating on the mentally ill is not going to change their minds.

  • Eden
    Eden Месяц назад +1

    WHITE PEOPLE ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RACIST. I have white friends. They are friends, they help me, they are supportive they add value to my life. BUT OMG, when we get to talking about race, the ideas they have about why there is racism and what racism is... knocks me off my feet. I had one friend tell me, that the reason the classification of races was created a hundred or so years ago was because people with dark skin needed diferent types of medicine in hospitals???
    So to tiny a degree that is true, but believe me the guy who came up with the cast of racism WAS A RACIST, he did it to cast races other than white and inferior, undeserving and less important. Point being, racism is so embedded in our culture even people with the best intention often have no idea they are supported or perpetuating systematic racism.

  • MsClark2009
    MsClark2009 Месяц назад +2

    Wow, I'm extremely impressed by Derek Black. This was one of the best interviews I've seen this year. Kudos to you friend.

  • VeganMarcella andMore
    VeganMarcella andMore Месяц назад +3

    I myself, back in the late 50's-early 60's, was raised to think whites were superior, but with the help of my day and meeting the first Black I've was ever close to in Jr High school, my heart was changed. So much power, as in David Dukes son saw, in 'face-to-face exposure' to other nationalities/ different colors of skin, it is the key, people don't recognize the power of Desegregation, it changed America towards becoming, and still working on, a 'true' America. When Duke's son went to a widely diverse college and was shown the Truth by exposure, Normalization of seeing all colors as equal thru meeting those non-white people, and how others treated non-whites as 'normal equal people' was such an important piece, if you are surrounded by people who see all as equal, and exposure to everyday people who differ in just the color of skin, over time, is very moving to a soul that was darkened. I think that is one of the greatest of tragedies of the Trump election, was he has allowed deep racism to feel normal again, including encouraging people to hate Muslims (predominatly black), I tell people that that is one of the reason, his normalizing of hate again, is why I think Satan is behide him. Trump has brought us back 50 yrs in our Societal growth, he is a Horror show to Humanity in America, it is what he encourages/ brings out the belief, that the Great America was back when he grew up with his White Nationalist father, back in the early 1900's where Hate of anyone 'nonwhite' was a virtue. It makes poor white trash feel superior to any color but their fungus white. His Base, is the Base of White Trash Racists, and any other naive person who gets caught up in his lies. The Bible talks about toward the 'End' that God will put blinders on some of the cold and luke-warm followers so that evil will rise, be destroyed in the 'End' and only 'His' true followers will be left. And of course anyone who knows what is next, God will also step in and stop the humans before we totally destroy the world. 2/3 of humanity will be wiped out. Yep, climate change is real and we are causing it according to the Bible (the book Trump followers have never read) Its interesting to actually pick of a Bible and see what is going on, there is nothing about a 2nd Jesus coming out (Trump), he is just part of the evil growth period, he is just part of the evil picture. If I was a Christian that 'believed in' Trump, I would be reallllllll worried that 1- I'm not really a true believer, 2- I'm about to be part of God's Smack Down. Thank about How many times have you been told, and seen, that a church is filled will only about 10% true believers, you can see that easily when you see that 85% of so called 'Christians' follow Trump. Anyone everyone have a good day

  • ik williams
    ik williams Месяц назад

    you can literally see tears in trevor’s eyes. He is face to face with his child hood under apartheid.

  • Dennis Kamuhanda
    Dennis Kamuhanda Месяц назад +2

    I've fount my Brother, thank you Derek and welcome home

  • ryan thatcher
    ryan thatcher Месяц назад +1

    wow this is so good

  • Empress Ntombi
    Empress Ntombi Месяц назад +1


  • Clem Z.
    Clem Z. Месяц назад +1

    Braving The Wilderness indeed. Powerful.

  • Girded King
    Girded King Месяц назад

    There is no repentance for you edomites... Yah will judge... ruclip.com/video/IRlCx5kOBBs/видео.html

  • James Brown
    James Brown Месяц назад +2

    Systemic Racism Is America's Mental Disorders.