John Stossel and Betsy Devos - Why Not School Choice?

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  • Опубликовано: 9 окт 2014
  • Politician Brian Jones and Betsy DeVos (American Federation for Children) discuss the merits of giving parents, rather than bureaucrats, power to select their children's school. www.LibertyPen.com

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  • R C
    R C 12 дней назад

    Privatization and choice is the way to go. I say do it completely. However, the government shouldn’t be the ones giving those kids the money to go from school to school. Think about it. The corruption would be rampant. More than it is even now.

  • ocpud2999
    ocpud2999 17 дней назад

    So stay and wait for the school to get better in the meantime your kid suffers. Its my tax money government did not earn my money if I have to pay taxes i should be able to choose where my kid goes. This is all about government knowing whats best for my family. My kid goes to charter school and he loves it he has a smile on his face going to school. When he went to public school he dreaded it. So by getting rid of charter schools many kids will loose an opportunity.

  • Buddy Jenkins
    Buddy Jenkins 27 дней назад

    It is a shame that none of the facts Mr. Jones uses about charter and publics schools have any basis in reality.

  • SilortheBlade
    SilortheBlade Месяц назад

    Looks like most comments are from the schools devos would advocate. Very uninformed and uneducated. If you follow Alex Jones then you are not informed, you are a conspiracy theorist, and that is all I see here.

  • truth.hurts 100
    truth.hurts 100 Месяц назад

    she acta stupid even the professor looks at her like umm you dum as fuck

  • Blue ringed Octopus
    Blue ringed Octopus Месяц назад

    Sounds like Brian Jones is a democrat

  • Vashti7
    Vashti7 Месяц назад

    I agree and there also needs to be a higher level of transparency on the school budget level because I have personally seen principles take the school budget and use funding That was supposed to go to programs and specialist and use it for a damn Christmas party instead

  • Spirit Grant
    Spirit Grant Месяц назад

    It's up to parents. Period.

  • Laura Martian
    Laura Martian 2 месяца назад

    School choice now!

  • myphonyaccount
    myphonyaccount 2 месяца назад

    Cherry picking todays charter schools is like FedEx cherry picking profitable package business, not money losing mail, while USPS is legally prohibited from competing pricewise on packages.

  • myphonyaccount
    myphonyaccount 2 месяца назад +1

    Conservatives should FIX public schools instead of returning us to the days of Oliver Twist mass illiteracy and work houses before there were public schools.

  • Rooster
    Rooster 2 месяца назад

    I think we exhaust way too much of our educational funds serving children who can not develop. We really need more concentration upon those with the highest potential.

  • Maya C.
    Maya C. 2 месяца назад

    The teacher is disillusioned!!!!

  • nat lee
    nat lee 3 месяца назад

    those black kids were paid,and/or forced to say they enjoy school,otherwise white,Asian and Latinos who actually want to learn would get the privilege they are getting and abusing.

  • Chris Hansen
    Chris Hansen 3 месяца назад

    The reality is Ms. DeVos doesn't live in reality. She neither attended nor worked as an educator in public or charter schools. She only has a platform because she's a wealthy heir. I commend the real teacher for making good points while keeping his cool during this two on one barrage. Notice that the interview is cut short as he gains the upper hand. I condemn the host for unethically taking a side when he knows he should serve as a moderator and for sensationally bringing up the Soviet Union after the interview. This video is pathetic propaganda.

  • Ken Vee
    Ken Vee 3 месяца назад

    Call me whatever you like, Progressives, but I love this lady. Nobody is more committed to improving the educational experience, and the outcomes they've created.

  • R.a. Wheeler
    R.a. Wheeler 3 месяца назад

    He just made the case: Schools are forced to compete. Duh! That's great!

  • Retaile23
    Retaile23 3 месяца назад

    You can't indoctrinate students if you don't have control.

  • shaniqua williams
    shaniqua williams 3 месяца назад

    did that guy really complain about charter schools able to get private funding to improve the schools... rofl

  • M A
    M A 3 месяца назад

    This is not about choice, it's about how can we educate American children in the most efficient way. Why are you focusing on Charter schools? This is why I'm in the middle, conservatives fight light idiots on the wrong ideas. We need more engineers and computer sciences students. Lets come together not divide.

  • Non Mirage Truth Vision
    Non Mirage Truth Vision 3 месяца назад

    We shouldn't be forced to have our community tax dollars go to failing schools with teachers who suck at their jobs. The money should go to the parents and with that money they will choose which schools rise and fall. It's called competition and with it we will see better teachers and more innovative schools. With that kind of money floating around there will be a revolution of new schools popping up everywhere trying to get there hands on those vouchers, it's a brilliant and simple idea. What do we have to lose, we spend more money as tax payers then ever on these public schools as they continue to decline. America is now ranked 40th in math. The time to do something is now.

  • Abdulmohsen Al-Kurdi Al-Milli
    Abdulmohsen Al-Kurdi Al-Milli 3 месяца назад

    Better cars and schools? No problem. Better movies and music? Don't think so...

  • Margaret Garbincus
    Margaret Garbincus 3 месяца назад

    I worked in 2 different charter schools in Cleveland and they were both AWFUL! Because a for-profit company ran each of these the schools, they made SO many cuts it was ridiculous. The books were outdated, the teachers were under-educated, there were NO art supplies, even though art was a subject being taught. And they lied to the parents relentlessly. The parents were told that all of us (teachers) had masters' degrees....most of us didn't even have teacher licenses, including myself. We actually had the security guard teaching science because we could not secure a science teacher for more than a week due to low wages, no benefits and no leadership. I could go on and on and on.
    I was one of those who thought choice was a positive thing in education...until I was actually involved in these charters. FOR PROFIT does NOT work in education, prisons or healthcare.
    Competition would work for schools IF there was actually a choice. Charter schools do not invest what is needed in order to educate our most needy students because they are in it for profits, not kids, period. John Stossel has no idea what he is talking about...

  • HashimTheDream
    HashimTheDream 4 месяца назад

    WHIP THAT ASS MS. DeVOS... WINNING!

  • ZackAttack Missouri
    ZackAttack Missouri 4 месяца назад

    Why should the government be able to decide the education of my child?! I should be able to do that

  • DayStar 36
    DayStar 36 4 месяца назад

    I REALLY hate this woman. I even hate looking at her wrinkled horse face! She could've benefitted from a good education 😂..as much a horse could

  • Dennis Ross
    Dennis Ross 4 месяца назад

    You know who hates school choice? Fascist.

  • phirephate
    phirephate 4 месяца назад

    These videos are infuriating. Arguing against competition and choice is basically arguing that you want a totalitarian regime to make all your choices for you. I want to shoot some of these cancerous idiots in the head. I don't know how Stossel keeps his cool.

  • Keshia Bancroft
    Keshia Bancroft 4 месяца назад

    Propaganda in the flesh

  • Des Troya
    Des Troya 4 месяца назад

    We need your money put into public schools because if not the public schools will have less money... Duh that is the point, when less children are in public schools you get less money! Good!

  • Monkey D Theories
    Monkey D Theories 5 месяцев назад

    have you ever thought that maybe schools that close close because they are bad schools

  • k man
    k man 5 месяцев назад

    you suck stossel. you and miss illiterate.

  • keis Farrow
    keis Farrow 5 месяцев назад

    I don't understand. How does choice make things better?

  • Ryan Sharp
    Ryan Sharp 5 месяцев назад

    The problems with unions is they always get infuriated by mafia.

  • usssanjacinto1
    usssanjacinto1 6 месяцев назад

    Competition puts fire in your behind to be a better teacher. When you have a monopoly, you don't hace to worry about being better anymore.

  • usssanjacinto1
    usssanjacinto1 6 месяцев назад

    His logic is that the only choice people would have is to pick a charter school and thats it, so thats why we shouldn't ha e charter schools. What?!?! This guy has no argument.

  • usssanjacinto1
    usssanjacinto1 6 месяцев назад

    There's nothing wrong with competition, it only makes you better.

  • orangemamba
    orangemamba 6 месяцев назад

    but the reality is... but the reality is... but the reality is... but the reality is...the reality being that its a damn shame the charter school held that spectacle of a lottery. was all that really necessary? the basic discussion is do we care that tax dollars pay for privately owned schools? were not exactly giving Walmart the money to keep its doors open but you can get what I mean.

  • terry clifton
    terry clifton 6 месяцев назад

    The public system is broken...Let's keep it going, right?

  • Mike Quigley
    Mike Quigley 6 месяцев назад

    Competition is good for children and schools.

  • J D
    J D 7 месяцев назад

    Brian Jones ran into a buzz saw.

  • kaidze
    kaidze 7 месяцев назад

    Start with decentralization of Government.

  • Queen Duncan Donut Of Scots
    Queen Duncan Donut Of Scots 7 месяцев назад

    We started homeschooling. Public wasn't teaching my daughter anything. These teachers are stressed out.

  • Jack MeOff
    Jack MeOff 7 месяцев назад

    By educating the young generation along the right lines, the People's State will have to see that a generation of mankind is formed which will be adequate to this supreme combat that will decide the destinies of the world. Adolf Hitler Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed. Joseph Stalin

  • Henk de YouTubesteen
    Henk de YouTubesteen 7 месяцев назад

    In the Netherlands we already have school choice

  • April Mae
    April Mae 7 месяцев назад

    Face the facts; PUBLIC GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS ARE CRAP AND A TOTAL WASTE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY.

  • Brandon S.
    Brandon S. 7 месяцев назад +1

    Did you catch the editing at 2:09? The previous speaker is absolutely correct: Most charters are allowed to _select_ their students (a charter is literally meant to step outside typical confines of the law [especially teacher unions]), and even when they have to take all lottery winners, they can expel trouble students back to the regular public schools. It is a scam, people. A total scam.
    The truth bomb happens at 4:02. Listen carefully -- even DeVos says "that's true."

  • Leland Matt
    Leland Matt 8 месяцев назад

    did she start every sentence with in reality?

  • Alexis Poulos
    Alexis Poulos 9 месяцев назад

    It's a Jewish communist agenda.

  • The- potato-warrior
    The- potato-warrior 9 месяцев назад

    I’m sorry, did forcefully making Americans buy things make this country the super power it is or is it capitalism? Capitalism always wins

  • Morgan Johnson
    Morgan Johnson 9 месяцев назад

    This is why Trump made her Secretary of Education.

  • Nikhilesh Surve
    Nikhilesh Surve 9 месяцев назад

    This woman is now in a position to make some constructive changes & hopefully she'll manage to do something successfully.

  • touchdownraiders2009
    touchdownraiders2009 9 месяцев назад

    Who are the fools who pressed thumbs down. Who hates school choice?

  • danilo ventura
    danilo ventura 9 месяцев назад

    I'm curious to know how much money the teacher's union piad this kuk... Devos handled this troglodyte.

  • j-lew
    j-lew 10 месяцев назад

    Costs less for an education in charter and with better results, but we have to protect the public schools (not students).

  • MARLEN CRUZ
    MARLEN CRUZ 10 месяцев назад

    This guy Brian is so full of shit

  • MARLEN CRUZ
    MARLEN CRUZ 10 месяцев назад

    People are tired of dealing with Bd schools and bad teachers. Sickening.

  • Timothy Leow
    Timothy Leow 10 месяцев назад

    Did she start every sentence with “The reality is...”?

  • jalexander305
    jalexander305 10 месяцев назад

    How is this common sense?

  • Ancap Zombie
    Ancap Zombie 10 месяцев назад

    So much special pleading by the "green" party.

  • John Hasse
    John Hasse 11 месяцев назад

    try to change government schools.... good luck. There is no cure for evil,,, except good.

  • Quentinho King
    Quentinho King 11 месяцев назад

    Jones is making the wrong argument here, the line of logic should be - should every institution be privatized, such as religion and education? Because the very view that the conservatives push (public choice and market economy) on every domain of society is the precise reason why universities have catered to their own clientele and turn into pits of SJW morass where 9 out of 10 professors and students are the radical liberal types. The conservative's own blind adherence to their ideology has let them down and are graduating citizens whose mission is to undermine capitalism and democracy.
    DeVos said it right off the bat: "Better products". I suppose it is up to the viewer to determine whether you want your kids to come out as a product in the free market system. To also assume that parents would make good decisions for children, a priori, must know nothing about the millions of poor choices parents make with regard to their own lives and those of their children - just pick up a newspaper and there'll be no shortage of those sorts of stories.
    In a way, they're both missing the point: you need a strong family in order to raise a child - the right thinks it's about the free market, the left thinks it's more state control. Fix the American nuclear family, and you'll fix the schools.

  • Phillip Lopez
    Phillip Lopez 11 месяцев назад

    Stossel is an idiot .

    • mitch paul
      mitch paul 10 месяцев назад

      I mean you could provide a rebuttal to his argument......

  • Phillip Lopez
    Phillip Lopez 11 месяцев назад

    That picture of DeVos illustrates what a smug bitch she is , perfect for Trump and his " CONTARD " following .

  • Al Cd
    Al Cd 11 месяцев назад

    How much money was Weingarten and the AFT financing Brian Jones' campaign so that he went on the air and espoused this nonsense?

  • Indy J
    Indy J 11 месяцев назад

    What a crock. School choice does not make things better. The truth is that adults brought down the public schools when the problem was not the schools but the parents. Parents don't have the intelligence to criticize the public schools. The public schools were the strength of this country until stupidity brought them down. Like today, before we realized it, the lying media destroyed public education. Listen to the pitiful inflection in Stossel's voice. Boy, is he full of it. There is so much lying in this report I can't keep up with it.

  • Professor Castellanos
    Professor Castellanos 11 месяцев назад

    The reality is... she, and her family, literally made billions of dollars from school "choice." Charter schools get public money, which takes money away from public schools, perpetuating the problem. Education is a public good, not a product. These are not consumers, these are students. To her, these are "products," words spoken from her mouth, which is very telling about her intentions.

  • Kevin Burkett
    Kevin Burkett 11 месяцев назад

    #1 reason for people against school choice: less union money. the unions have completely corrupted our current upcoming generation by basically saying it's better to pass someone along who clearly needs more help because it'll protect his/her wittle feewings (before the grammar nazis come in that was intentional) the whole reason we succeeded as a nation was because we told people if you cant do well in school, go to trade school because you either work or you starve

  • theotherotherjenny
    theotherotherjenny 11 месяцев назад

    Can Betsy DeVos please not start every sentence with "The reality is..." As if we're all in danger of assuming her statements are fantasy unless she utters the magic passphrase...?

  • Indigo Azai
    Indigo Azai 11 месяцев назад

    I go to a really nice public school, but choice is still important. A shotty system needs to change or begone

  • Omega Henry
    Omega Henry 11 месяцев назад

    If they let the parent pick they know that everyone will leave gov schools.

  • Omega Henry
    Omega Henry 11 месяцев назад

    Schools wouldn't have to choose if you would let these schools exist.

  • Omega Henry
    Omega Henry 11 месяцев назад

    A former teacher thinks you're wrong about something he used to be a part of? hudathunkit.

  • Juanita Dudley
    Juanita Dudley 11 месяцев назад

    What happened to being pro choice?!?

  • Roval Chadoms
    Roval Chadoms Год назад

    And... DeVos goes on to be the Secretary of Education

  • Kyle
    Kyle Год назад

    Teachers unions are communist

  • anon
    anon Год назад

    I am for school choice and frankly, in 2017, do we even need institutional learning centers for kids anymore? That said - devil's advocate - so what if we expand the logic to say, fine - let's make EVERY school a CHARTER SCHOOL and no longer have public schools ... wouldn't they just become the equivalent of public schools then?
    I think the real argument they are debating (without saying it) is whether or not government should run primary education anymore

  • wm 117
    wm 117 Год назад

    Teachers Unions are to blame

  • wm 117
    wm 117 Год назад

    Force teachers to do their jobs

  • tom7601
    tom7601 Год назад

    Make the choice for the children's sake, not the union's sake...

  • Nicole D
    Nicole D Год назад

    Why is it the parents responsibility to change their school? What bull crap this guy is spewing!

  • monkeyburrito 411
    monkeyburrito 411 Год назад

    Betsy Devos, our secretary of education!!!

  • Dimitry Jobby
    Dimitry Jobby Год назад

    how mr john resist the urge to stangle that scum government burocrat. Thoose people are vicious, they know what they do is hurting kids but they have theyr own interests and will moove foward telling blatant lies.

  • Tcmtech
    Tcmtech Год назад

    Anyone else feel like this guy doenst even believe what he is saying about not supporting schools freedom of choice in how they work and operate?

  • Alexandru Dragoi
    Alexandru Dragoi Год назад

    I like Trump's choice for education .. I'm not aware of her doing anything so far. Hopefully she won't engage in much cronyism and actually steer the country towards school choice.

  • Deegs Deg
    Deegs Deg Год назад

    That liberal idea of using kids as mouth pieces for issues really annoyed me, other than that it was a great video.

  • arcguardian
    arcguardian Год назад

    Choice is bad unless ur choosing to kill an unborn child. This backwards logic is just another reason ppl voted for Trump.

  • Marty Mcfly
    Marty Mcfly Год назад

    Like talking to a rock this guy.

  • gherrrie
    gherrrie Год назад

    What I don't get is WHY THE HELL IS THE IDIOT MEWSMAN TAKING SIDES AND GANGING UP ON THE GREEN CANDIDATE ?!!?! Isn't he supposed to facilitate a balanced and fair discussion where both sides can put their best foot forward ?!! ... Dummy !! ....just for that I'm voting green in the next election in 2035 !! 😬

  • 1acroyear1
    1acroyear1 Год назад

    I like how that Brian Jones fellow didn't waste a fucking *SECOND* coming off as a brainwashed leftist.
    So this book "Education and Capitalism" is a book written by teachers about how school reform is bad, huh? Nah, no hidden agenda there.

  • Joseph Hernandez
    Joseph Hernandez Год назад

    The problem with school choice is that those in richer neighborhoods will be getting swamped with student applications. Then the problem becomes how do we select the students that are allowed into our schools. The choice is not the parents but the school/ county administrators. So why do I think only rich neighborhoods are going to get swamped? Here is my math. In Montgomery county (3rd in $ per student) 66% of the money raised is from local sources. 27% from Maryland state(11th in $ per student). AND ONLY 3% comes from federal sources. So $12,000 that this student can take to School x does not factor in which district this student lives in. The kid that lives in Potomac/Bethesda could be bringing a school upwards of $28,000. Where a kid from another could only bring the national average of $12,000. If you were a school administrator, whose paycheck is now decided by which students you choose, what would you do? SO all school choice will end up doing is creating an even larger class system of schools where you can only go to the best schools if you live in the richest counties. OHH wait that is already happening.... So I am honestly asking what will school choice fix?

    • Auron3991
      Auron3991 Год назад

      So, basically, your contending that education would be the one thing where competition would raise rates instead of lowering them? The point is to create a situation like the tech market. Sure, not everyone can afford the fresh off the line PC, but just about anyone has access to computing power beyond even some of the wildest fever dreams of the 80s.
      See, the one thing you leave out of your analysis is that market forces tend to make the successful expand, which allows them to provide service for more. This tends to cause a drop in price due to the ability to work on lower margins because they require less overhead to pay for things like athletics fields or network systems (economics of scale). Include the fact that teachers will compete to be better, thus making good become the new average, one begins to see where everyone gets a better education.
      And yes, it does take a little while to sift wheat from chaff, but better to encourage the sifting process than not when you know there's darnel in it.

  • David Cox
    David Cox Год назад

    “There are no shekels without shackles. The government is never going to give you money without attached requirements, even for ‘opportunity scholarships,’ as vouchers are called today.
    Example: “A Florida proposal for school vouchers insisted that (1) you can’t require a child to attend a religious chapel, (2) you can’t discriminate in hiring practices, and (3) you can’t select students from just your church body, but must open the school to anyone who wants to attend. Also with the government’s fresh take on what constitutes male and female, your place of learning must provide transgender bathrooms.” Amireh Al-Haddad
    Vouchers are a Trojan Horse for private schools. The money will bring the regs, and pretty soon they will become government schools, just like public schools have become. And then there will be NO choice, because all choices will be the same.

  • Crying Liberals
    Crying Liberals Год назад

    Left-wing Democrats and Teacher's Unions are against School Choice and will fight tooth and nail to stop school choice from happening.

  • Connie Criscitello
    Connie Criscitello Год назад

    Fuck You Brian Jones.

  • TheNaturalust
    TheNaturalust Год назад

    The bottom line is private charter schools are scams, cherry pick the students, exclude gays and special needs, have HIDDEN tax breaks which make it VERY favorable to invest in these schools and do things like buy a property and lease it to themselves at 10X the rate and make a disguised profit off the real estate scam. This is what Betsy DeVos is signing up for. The bottom line is the charter school system was an interesting idea but has proven that it draws the greedy element who care nothing about education and everything about making money. DeVos is a fraud who knows nothing about education. Private schools? Fine, just don't use federal funds to support them. Leave the federal funds for the public school system.
    Stossel is a complete idiot and doesn't get that greedy businessmen don't have any incentive to create good education, only good profits and that charter schools are dependant on federal funds, tax breaks and return on investment. This is why billionaire families like the DeVos's are supporting them. She has probably never seen the inside of a private school and neither has anyone in her family. She gives money to kill gay rights legislation and believes in conversion therapy to "cure" gays and make them straight. Eject this woman ASAP. America wake up!!

  • OHIOspikey
    OHIOspikey Год назад

    What a sick cretin Strossel is. Nobody except the brainwashed believes this garbage. This propaganda is akin to the "right to work" bills passed in some states which amounts to - the right to work for low pay and no benefits. We have garbage outcomes in our schools here in the U.S. because we do not fund public education. As a result nobody wants to become a teacher for the lousy pay, and the total infrastructure of the system of education collapses. This is by design, meaning that they unfunded education knowing that this would be the outcome. Predatory for-profit companies then come in and sell you their trash private schools.
    The answer to this is to fund education. No longer tie the funding for schools to the taxes on properties in the school zone. Instead implement a state-wide tax that funds all the schools in that state. Abolish all charter schools. If people, meaning rich people, still want private schools, then they can pay out of pocket for them. However, they still have to pay the state tax.

    • Auron3991
      Auron3991 Год назад

      Oh, take the lies elsewhere. Public funding for education has skyrocketed since the 70s and test scores sure aren't matching. They haven't even actually increased by any amount that would indicate correlation. Heck, South Korea is kicking our rears while spending less per dollar made by the average family.

  • Wini G
    Wini G Год назад

    when he said how could school be fun the little boy said they just teach us in a fun way. this should tell you that kids being happy and preforming well in school is not about the school itsel, it's about the people who are working in the schools. if schools aren't performing as we want then we need to look at the people who are running the schools not the school itself.
    when we don't have the balls to fire the people who are bringing down our school systems then we run to the next best option and that's changing the school ie: school choice. The problem with continuously changing the school until you find " something that works for you" as Betsy DeVos said, then we allow undue burden on those who benefit from other convniences of the school such as location and other ulterior programs.
    If we want true school choice then we need to learn the art of speaking up about our issues collectively, simply changing may not be the best solution realistically.
    BTW, if public dollars are going into private schools aka private businesses then equality within school choice may, more than likely, disappear over the course of the standing of the bill which will create more of a problem than trashing the trash and corrupt people would. Unless of course there is some hardcore accountability placed upon those private entities.

  • vinnierex2
    vinnierex2 Год назад +1

    Atleast this commie was nice

  • joskemom
    joskemom Год назад +3

    Tell this moron that students are in competition with each other.

  • David Mack
    David Mack Год назад

    Ms. DeVoss needs another "catch phrase", beside "The Reality Is".
    she started every argumentative point with that.
    The fact is, if not for the teachers unions, the public schools would produce better educated youth.
    Teacher Unions are the cancer on the public education system.