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End unions in the school systems and you will automatically you will see a drastic increase in the number/quality of people who become productive adults.
We must weigh ALL the trade offs. Unless we are going to completely dismantle public schools there are some factors not addressed in this conversation. The children who can not travel to private, charter or co-op schools due to economic,social or parent schedule constraints or have parents that just dont care will be the cost. If children are left in districts where excellent teachers have left for better paying positions in alternative schools teachers unions, federally mandated curriculumn, psuedo curiculumn experiments and education practice purchased by federal dollars will limit the teachers that are left in those districts. The subpar teachers and education system will cripple these children for generations...until the school closes. I am not saying which trade off is best. But let's have an honest conversation about it.
Should schools have choice in who gets in their school?
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful. - Seneca (ca. 4 BC -AD 65) All religions are useful to vile, evil politicians.
Indoctrination: the act of indoctrinating, or teaching or inculcating a doctrine, principle, or ideology, especially one with a specific point of view: religious indoctrination.
DeVos believes that "War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength;"
LibertyPen ??? as in under totalitarian government, freedom of the individual is called slavery, and slavery of the individual is called freedom ?
John Stossel and Betsy Devos HATERS of EVERYTHING public, are HATERS of USA !!!
The only reason I don't agree with Nancy DeVos is that she runs religious school. You know, the type that discriminates gay students and denies Evolution as scientific fact because it breaches holy scripture.I'm for privatization as government schools are so bad.
Different methods of teaching in different schools for kids with different learning abilities.. why is this bad??
How do we know it won't work we've had the same system for hundreds of years... we need a change.
Why Schools Don't Educate www.naturalchild.org/guest/john_gatto.htmlDeliberate Dumbing Down of America deliberatedumbingdown.com/ddd/Choice? Public schools are indoctrination, not education, Charter or not. Our learners are so lacking any skills or the ability to think for themselves...their best options after graduation is the military or prison. Communist Core is a global indoctrination program...it is not meant to educate. The globalists are creating a new world---it so happens that the old one is in the way. This world is driven by commerce and technology and the last thing they want is healthy, intelligent, articulate and free thinking subjects. Who is behind all of this Communist Core? The United Nations...a Rothschild organization and our very own government. The people who brought us Communist Core have made millions, while our youth is washed in mind control.The Big Picture: Mind Control Culturerenegadevids.com/2017/07/15/the-big-picture-of-child-trafficking-mind-control-culture/
I wish RUclip stops recommending this POS's shitty right wing show.
i see.... instead of simply funding schools properly, let's turn our kids over to the free market. #genious #sarcasmAnybody who thinks competition is what our public schools need right now obviously doesn't know what a school is.
Class size is the biggest bunch of BS I have ever heard. I went to school and every class was 30 to 38 students in every class and I would put my education against any of the one's today. We had no teachers aides nor very many student teachers. The teachers in the schools should have to justify their existence every year either produce or find another job. They have been dumbing down the schools for along time and it is time to stop and go back to teach to the average and not the lowest ones
4% ?!?!?????!!!! Show me the data please
In two minutes i heard devoss call the gentleman a liar. You can't both be right.
two minutes in and Devos refers to education/schools as a "product".
I used to teach. Best class i had was the largest. Worst class I had was the smallest. Size is not the determiner.
John Stossel is dum like Betsy
Privatization and choice is the way to go. I say do it completely. However, the government shouldn’t be the ones giving those kids the money to go from school to school. Think about it. The corruption would be rampant. More than it is even now.
So stay and wait for the school to get better in the meantime your kid suffers. Its my tax money government did not earn my money if I have to pay taxes i should be able to choose where my kid goes. This is all about government knowing whats best for my family. My kid goes to charter school and he loves it he has a smile on his face going to school. When he went to public school he dreaded it. So by getting rid of charter schools many kids will loose an opportunity.
It is a shame that none of the facts Mr. Jones uses about charter and publics schools have any basis in reality.
Looks like most comments are from the schools devos would advocate. Very uninformed and uneducated. If you follow Alex Jones then you are not informed, you are a conspiracy theorist, and that is all I see here.
she acta stupid even the professor looks at her like umm you dum as fuck
Sounds like Brian Jones is a democrat
I agree and there also needs to be a higher level of transparency on the school budget level because I have personally seen principles take the school budget and use funding That was supposed to go to programs and specialist and use it for a damn Christmas party instead
It's up to parents. Period.
School choice now!
Cherry picking todays charter schools is like FedEx cherry picking profitable package business, not money losing mail, while USPS is legally prohibited from competing pricewise on packages.
Conservatives should FIX public schools instead of returning us to the days of Oliver Twist mass illiteracy and work houses before there were public schools.
I think we exhaust way too much of our educational funds serving children who can not develop. We really need more concentration upon those with the highest potential.
The teacher is disillusioned!!!!
those black kids were paid,and/or forced to say they enjoy school,otherwise white,Asian and Latinos who actually want to learn would get the privilege they are getting and abusing.
The reality is Ms. DeVos doesn't live in reality. She neither attended nor worked as an educator in public or charter schools. She only has a platform because she's a wealthy heir. I commend the real teacher for making good points while keeping his cool during this two on one barrage. Notice that the interview is cut short as he gains the upper hand. I condemn the host for unethically taking a side when he knows he should serve as a moderator and for sensationally bringing up the Soviet Union after the interview. This video is pathetic propaganda.
Call me whatever you like, Progressives, but I love this lady. Nobody is more committed to improving the educational experience, and the outcomes they've created.
He just made the case: Schools are forced to compete. Duh! That's great!
You can't indoctrinate students if you don't have control.
did that guy really complain about charter schools able to get private funding to improve the schools... rofl
This is not about choice, it's about how can we educate American children in the most efficient way. Why are you focusing on Charter schools? This is why I'm in the middle, conservatives fight light idiots on the wrong ideas. We need more engineers and computer sciences students. Lets come together not divide.
We shouldn't be forced to have our community tax dollars go to failing schools with teachers who suck at their jobs. The money should go to the parents and with that money they will choose which schools rise and fall. It's called competition and with it we will see better teachers and more innovative schools. With that kind of money floating around there will be a revolution of new schools popping up everywhere trying to get there hands on those vouchers, it's a brilliant and simple idea. What do we have to lose, we spend more money as tax payers then ever on these public schools as they continue to decline. America is now ranked 40th in math. The time to do something is now.
Better cars and schools? No problem. Better movies and music? Don't think so...
I worked in 2 different charter schools in Cleveland and they were both AWFUL! Because a for-profit company ran each of these the schools, they made SO many cuts it was ridiculous. The books were outdated, the teachers were under-educated, there were NO art supplies, even though art was a subject being taught. And they lied to the parents relentlessly. The parents were told that all of us (teachers) had masters' degrees....most of us didn't even have teacher licenses, including myself. We actually had the security guard teaching science because we could not secure a science teacher for more than a week due to low wages, no benefits and no leadership. I could go on and on and on. I was one of those who thought choice was a positive thing in education...until I was actually involved in these charters. FOR PROFIT does NOT work in education, prisons or healthcare.Competition would work for schools IF there was actually a choice. Charter schools do not invest what is needed in order to educate our most needy students because they are in it for profits, not kids, period. John Stossel has no idea what he is talking about...
WHIP THAT ASS MS. DeVOS... WINNING!
Why should the government be able to decide the education of my child?! I should be able to do that
I REALLY hate this woman. I even hate looking at her wrinkled horse face! She could've benefitted from a good education 😂..as much a horse could
You know who hates school choice? Fascist.
These videos are infuriating. Arguing against competition and choice is basically arguing that you want a totalitarian regime to make all your choices for you. I want to shoot some of these cancerous idiots in the head. I don't know how Stossel keeps his cool.
Propaganda in the flesh
We need your money put into public schools because if not the public schools will have less money... Duh that is the point, when less children are in public schools you get less money! Good!
have you ever thought that maybe schools that close close because they are bad schools
you suck stossel. you and miss illiterate.
I don't understand. How does choice make things better?
The problems with unions is they always get infuriated by mafia.
Competition puts fire in your behind to be a better teacher. When you have a monopoly, you don't hace to worry about being better anymore.
His logic is that the only choice people would have is to pick a charter school and thats it, so thats why we shouldn't ha e charter schools. What?!?! This guy has no argument.
There's nothing wrong with competition, it only makes you better.
but the reality is... but the reality is... but the reality is... but the reality is...the reality being that its a damn shame the charter school held that spectacle of a lottery. was all that really necessary? the basic discussion is do we care that tax dollars pay for privately owned schools? were not exactly giving Walmart the money to keep its doors open but you can get what I mean.
The public system is broken...Let's keep it going, right?
Competition is good for children and schools.
Brian Jones ran into a buzz saw.
Start with decentralization of Government.
We started homeschooling. Public wasn't teaching my daughter anything. These teachers are stressed out.
By educating the young generation along the right lines, the People's State will have to see that a generation of mankind is formed which will be adequate to this supreme combat that will decide the destinies of the world. Adolf Hitler Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed. Joseph Stalin
In the Netherlands we already have school choice
Face the facts; PUBLIC GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS ARE CRAP AND A TOTAL WASTE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY.
Did you catch the editing at 2:09? The previous speaker is absolutely correct: Most charters are allowed to _select_ their students (a charter is literally meant to step outside typical confines of the law [especially teacher unions]), and even when they have to take all lottery winners, they can expel trouble students back to the regular public schools. It is a scam, people. A total scam.The truth bomb happens at 4:02. Listen carefully -- even DeVos says "that's true."
did she start every sentence with in reality?
It's a Jewish communist agenda.
I’m sorry, did forcefully making Americans buy things make this country the super power it is or is it capitalism? Capitalism always wins
This is why Trump made her Secretary of Education.
This woman is now in a position to make some constructive changes & hopefully she'll manage to do something successfully.
Who are the fools who pressed thumbs down. Who hates school choice?
I'm curious to know how much money the teacher's union piad this kuk... Devos handled this troglodyte.
Costs less for an education in charter and with better results, but we have to protect the public schools (not students).
This guy Brian is so full of shit
People are tired of dealing with Bd schools and bad teachers. Sickening.
How is this common sense?
So much special pleading by the "green" party.
try to change government schools.... good luck. There is no cure for evil,,, except good.
Jones is making the wrong argument here, the line of logic should be - should every institution be privatized, such as religion and education? Because the very view that the conservatives push (public choice and market economy) on every domain of society is the precise reason why universities have catered to their own clientele and turn into pits of SJW morass where 9 out of 10 professors and students are the radical liberal types. The conservative's own blind adherence to their ideology has let them down and are graduating citizens whose mission is to undermine capitalism and democracy. DeVos said it right off the bat: "Better products". I suppose it is up to the viewer to determine whether you want your kids to come out as a product in the free market system. To also assume that parents would make good decisions for children, a priori, must know nothing about the millions of poor choices parents make with regard to their own lives and those of their children - just pick up a newspaper and there'll be no shortage of those sorts of stories.In a way, they're both missing the point: you need a strong family in order to raise a child - the right thinks it's about the free market, the left thinks it's more state control. Fix the American nuclear family, and you'll fix the schools.
Stossel is an idiot .
I mean you could provide a rebuttal to his argument......
That picture of DeVos illustrates what a smug bitch she is , perfect for Trump and his " CONTARD " following .
How much money was Weingarten and the AFT financing Brian Jones' campaign so that he went on the air and espoused this nonsense?
What a crock. School choice does not make things better. The truth is that adults brought down the public schools when the problem was not the schools but the parents. Parents don't have the intelligence to criticize the public schools. The public schools were the strength of this country until stupidity brought them down. Like today, before we realized it, the lying media destroyed public education. Listen to the pitiful inflection in Stossel's voice. Boy, is he full of it. There is so much lying in this report I can't keep up with it.
The reality is... she, and her family, literally made billions of dollars from school "choice." Charter schools get public money, which takes money away from public schools, perpetuating the problem. Education is a public good, not a product. These are not consumers, these are students. To her, these are "products," words spoken from her mouth, which is very telling about her intentions.
#1 reason for people against school choice: less union money. the unions have completely corrupted our current upcoming generation by basically saying it's better to pass someone along who clearly needs more help because it'll protect his/her wittle feewings (before the grammar nazis come in that was intentional) the whole reason we succeeded as a nation was because we told people if you cant do well in school, go to trade school because you either work or you starve
Can Betsy DeVos please not start every sentence with "The reality is..." As if we're all in danger of assuming her statements are fantasy unless she utters the magic passphrase...?
I go to a really nice public school, but choice is still important. A shotty system needs to change or begone
If they let the parent pick they know that everyone will leave gov schools.
Schools wouldn't have to choose if you would let these schools exist.
A former teacher thinks you're wrong about something he used to be a part of? hudathunkit.
What happened to being pro choice?!?
And... DeVos goes on to be the Secretary of Education
Teachers unions are communist
I am for school choice and frankly, in 2017, do we even need institutional learning centers for kids anymore? That said - devil's advocate - so what if we expand the logic to say, fine - let's make EVERY school a CHARTER SCHOOL and no longer have public schools ... wouldn't they just become the equivalent of public schools then?I think the real argument they are debating (without saying it) is whether or not government should run primary education anymore
Teachers Unions are to blame
Force teachers to do their jobs
Make the choice for the children's sake, not the union's sake...
Why is it the parents responsibility to change their school? What bull crap this guy is spewing!
Betsy Devos, our secretary of education!!!