What's inside a Tesla Battery?

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Zero ToleranceZero Tolerance (1 день назад)
yawn... What's inside a Tesla Battery? Same thing as any Lion battery. Yawn.

Elias FowlerElias Fowler (12 дней назад)
That "carbon fiber" retainer is NOT carbon fiber. If it was, it could very easily short the battery. It is a fiberglass retainer (hence the white fibers/yellow resin). Also... stating "it is completely safe" is VERY FALSE!!!! EDIT THIS VIDEO SO MORE PEOPLE DO NOT DO THIS!!!!

Mud-LustMud-Lust (14 дней назад)
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lasersbeelasersbee (15 дней назад)
1:45 If that copper foil is a meter long... you must have ENORMOUS GIANT hands. :/

Neil VanceNeil Vance (15 дней назад)

imlerithimlerith (16 дней назад)
galaxy note 7 have gunpowder instead lithium

Michael RinkleMichael Rinkle (23 дня назад)
doesn't look like it catches fire easily at all! Also, you do know that the electron flow goes from negative to positive, right?!

Vin JakVin Jak (25 дней назад)
Now do something useful with it-Make meth!

El SalvadorEl Salvador (26 дней назад)
I missed the part where it caught on fire quite easy

sapyorsapyor (26 дней назад)
Tesla is the fraud of the century

Seongcheol ChoiSeongcheol Choi (26 дней назад)
It seems not carbon-fiber reinforced sheet but glass fiber-reinforced sheet.

jl644jl644 (27 дней назад)
Didn't catch on fire.

ScottScott (1 месяц назад)
a metre? boy, that was 30cm a metre is 3x that length lol

JustinJustin (1 месяц назад)
Better use Bronco. Why? Cause it got electrolytes!

crunchb3rrycrunchb3rry (1 месяц назад)
Electrolytes are what plants crave.

Dialogue AfghanDialogue Afghan (1 месяц назад)
lithium + Graphite = Positive sheet

That won't burn which make that cell un-explodable / non exploding

I deal in NATO Scrap Battries and I have great knowledge of such battries that dont cath fire because there is no electrolyte in it

cubleycatcubleycat (1 месяц назад)
Bet you cant put it back together :-)


fartampliferfartamplifer (1 месяц назад)
Tesla batteries are just Panasonic batteries that are made under license from Panasonic.

Ckc dillpickleCkc dillpickle (1 месяц назад)
Because at the time affording a 1-10 billion dollar factory was not easy for tesla.

Michel LinschotenMichel Linschoten (1 месяц назад)
the electrolyte material was designed by Tesla. The 2170 battery form
factor was designed by Tesla. The only thing Panasonic are doing is
handling the manufacturing process. Same way Apple designs everything
and ships it off to Foxconn to do the actual production.

Gtracing TheMunSessionGtracing TheMunSession (1 месяц назад)
good video

saratj1saratj1 (1 месяц назад)
looked more like fiberglass in there than carbon fiber. I thought carbon = black

Dario ImpiniDario Impini (1 месяц назад)
"Can catch on fire quite easily" -- has to apply continuous torch just to force it to glow.

staaaajnstaaaajn (1 месяц назад)
Great video, thank you for teaching us something new!

Curtis NewtonCurtis Newton (1 месяц назад)
also this is not a battery, but a cell, and if it is discharged to 0V the you cant really do anything with it anymore

Aten RaAten Ra (1 месяц назад)
What's inside a Tesla Battery?

Nikola Tesla is inside a tesla battery,obviously, on a little hamster wheel, they cloned and minaturised him so he could give you all energy for free.

oogiemasteroogiemaster (1 месяц назад)
It was not a meter long and it was not very flammable!

Pibbles 'n BitsPibbles 'n Bits (1 месяц назад)
What's inside a Tesla Battery? Energy....potential chemical energy....unless you discharge the battery like they did for this video.

SaintMarneusCalgarSaintMarneusCalgar (1 месяц назад)
did he say about a meter long ?^^

Joeparlaconte ParlaconteJoeparlaconte Parlaconte (1 месяц назад)
Modern Bagdad battery.

Atomic TopsAtomic Tops (1 месяц назад)
I enjoyed the video and not to nit-pick but the copper foil shown is nowhere near a metre/meter, more like 300-400 mm, unless there is more somewhere else. Ok, I see someone else had commented on this already.

Loic tagaLoic taga (1 месяц назад)
That's not a meter long...

Zsolt Peter KodnerZsolt Peter Kodner (1 месяц назад)
Nikola Tesla invented and created the wireless electric transfer in the 1890!
This company makes shame on this great inventors name!

Ckc dillpickleCkc dillpickle (1 месяц назад)
Wireless electric transfer.. Its really not all that complex nor is it really wireless since it has to be in under a 7" distance from the plate.

Victor KyrgVictor Kyrg (1 месяц назад)
That is *not* a metre.

GundamKnight00GundamKnight00 (1 месяц назад)
so your all are sAYING THIS GUY IS A Liar

Mark SandersMark Sanders (1 месяц назад)
complete crap in the first sentence

dwigmans zdwigmans z (1 месяц назад)
now you get a skin cancer lol

diGritz1diGritz1 (1 месяц назад)
This is all BS. Inside all batteries are tiny little battery gnomes except the ones you take apart.

TX RiderTX Rider (1 месяц назад)
Looks like a normal unprotected 18650 battery to me, what's different about it?

der analogeder analoge (1 месяц назад)
shit tesla battery ! kreissler from austria is much better with double capacity for the same size ! also shit bosch ebike battery from china !!!!! it is very old technology with high costs ! BOSCHISSEN !

Johan KuhnJohan Kuhn (1 месяц назад)
These are also not real Tesla cells (not even sur if they make 18650, i tought they were juste buying the to samsung or lg.) Tesla Cells won't have exactly the same size than 18650's...

Astetanium 82Astetanium 82 (1 месяц назад)
the black foil is not lithium its the white paper witch coated with lithium outer layear

Komrad JerinhoKomrad Jerinho (1 месяц назад)

lnpilotlnpilot (1 месяц назад)
Ever hear about rubber gloves? You know, when you are dealing with nasty chemicals...

Anirudh VasudevanAnirudh Vasudevan (1 месяц назад)
pure lithium would catch fire due to its oxidation properties.. how is the lithium sheet in your video so stable when the outer layer is torn everywhere?

Philippe-Alexandér RousseauPhilippe-Alexandér Rousseau (1 месяц назад)
You either have giant hands, or you need to check up the length of a meter

Life Hacks For KidsLife Hacks For Kids (1 месяц назад)
Very cool :-)

Jackson TsaiJackson Tsai (1 месяц назад)
This guy has no idea what he's talking about... don't know why you would make a video with so much wrong information and without sufficient preparation. Mislead and misinform people. Please put more work before you start explaining things to other people.

John SalazarJohn Salazar (1 месяц назад)
I've always wondered why Tesla uses small round batteries? I would have thought that a larger square battery maybe the size of 9 of these put together would be a better use of space under the car, and would be more efficient as less metal would be used on the outside of the battery. Plus being square would mean you could pack them in together and not have that wasted space in between the round cells.

Ckc dillpickleCkc dillpickle (1 месяц назад)
They are probably circular so they can disperse heat better?
A lot of small batteries are better than one big battery

loneventhorizonloneventhorizon (1 месяц назад)
its a capacitor

Mark JenningsMark Jennings (1 месяц назад)
Is there a nightclub nearby? Annoying beats seeping into your audio....

Warren NZWarren NZ (1 месяц назад)
Interesting, thanks for posting.

robviolin1robviolin1 (1 месяц назад)
Good report. 👍

Iamfree AreyouIamfree Areyou (1 месяц назад)
You're going to have all kinds of idiots getting injured just because they'll think that a battery is safe to tear apart just because it's discharged. These are not that different from the 18650 batteries and when those get punctured, they heat up, very hot, charged or not.

Iamfree AreyouIamfree Areyou (1 месяц назад)
A battery having zero charge does NOT make it safe to dissect. What makes a battery unsafe to open is not the battery having a charge, it's the stuff inside the battery. First off, gasses released when you puncture it are toxic. Second, the battery can contain caustic solutions. Third, lithium can react violently when it comes into contact with air IE explosion (you know, all those exploding battery/exploding cell phone videos).

Paolo MilanPaolo Milan (1 месяц назад)
molto interessante

Tommy AventadorTommy Aventador (1 месяц назад)
U sure its not a graphine batt?

Rino PravatoRino Pravato (1 месяц назад)

Mike SpearsMike Spears (1 месяц назад)
Sorry this video is so wrong! Everything wrong and that's not even a battery it's a cell. excuse me my head is about to explode from all this BS. IMOUTAHERE!!!!!
What is this? ...The maximum bull shit channel!!!

Europeans Rise - Worldwide!Europeans Rise - Worldwide! (1 месяц назад)
You really need to find out what safety precautions you should be observing before you dismantle objects like this. I know others have told you but you should be told a million times until it's hammered into your head!

Waleed EL MhamalWaleed EL Mhamal (1 месяц назад)
whats up with this gay music in the background?

JoelJoel (1 месяц назад)
This is why the metric system sucks, that wasn't a meter. I'm willing to bet it was closer to 18".

Dave GlennDave Glenn (1 месяц назад)
Metre long? It's no more than 12"

J SHIOJ SHIO (1 месяц назад)
Hmm I hope in a short time, they will become smaller by a factor of 2 and more powerful by a factor of 2

TylenoleTylenole (1 месяц назад)
this dude is going to die soon lol. wonder how much of that got into your lungs.... never mind what got onto your hands. this is natural selection at work right her folks.

Stephen BrightStephen Bright (1 месяц назад)
lithium catches fire with oxygen I don't need a flame to burn

Zach JacobyZach Jacoby (1 месяц назад)
I don't think that copper sheet is a meter long mate

Agent OfficeAgent Office (1 месяц назад)
0v doesn't mean 0v if it's protected

Martin KMartin K (1 месяц назад)
truth is that current flow from positive to negatyve is universaly agreed .... BUT truth is that we know not only agreed current flow but also real curentflow .. and that is from negatyve to positive ...

TickyTack23TickyTack23 (1 месяц назад)
Please, use gloves.

CVR IVCVR IV (1 месяц назад)
A meter long?!?!?! I think you might be a tad off....

Bidyut BorahBidyut Borah (1 месяц назад)
Thank you for this elaborate demonstration

G AllenG Allen (1 месяц назад)
Dude. What are you doing?

susmoy ssusmoy s (1 месяц назад)
im glad i didnt watch the video. came to comments and learned a lot

Roger NevezRoger Nevez (1 месяц назад)
it looks like an electrolytic capacitor

ClosureClosure (1 месяц назад)
Thats so simple !

LoneTigerLoneTiger (1 месяц назад)
So in short: Tesla batteries are just small capacitors?
Also that's the amp charge rating of this battery?

Aban Jacob RumanAban Jacob Ruman (1 месяц назад)
1:53 that's not a meter long. Do you also say you have a 14 inches cock?
that has to be 30cm

erepsekahserepsekahs (1 месяц назад)
"About a meter long"  Ahem, I would say about 30cm long.

Luc BuydensLuc Buydens (2 месяца назад)
Totally discharged, so safe to destroy. By bare hands.. Really? Please do not make that a general rule.

Roman KrafftRoman Krafft (2 месяца назад)
This video is full of crap...sorry but 90% of the Information this Idiot is giving is BS...secondly...Happy cancer μ Friend -.-

nimm3nimm3 (2 месяца назад)
As a scientist in lithium-ion battery cells, I have to say: Beside the fact that 95 % of the things you are saying here are just WRONG, what you are doing is highly dangerous!!!
1. DONT. EVER. OPEN. A. LITHIUM. ION. CELL without knowing its danger!
2. USE F****IN gloves!!! The cell contains a significant amount of LiPF6. In contact with the air humidity it can react to hydrofluoric acid - btw. glove wouldnt help here. Furthermore the cathode is NCA. Its 80% Nickel, which is carcinogenic!!

What you show here is - again - really dangerous! You have risked your health!

seaplaneguyseaplaneguy (1 месяц назад)
Juri, current crash protection is not enough to allow large acceptance of low weight vehicles driving around heavy trucks, campers, and SUVs. See my recent post. Yes, you can remove 90% of the petrol. How is the question I answer in my recent post. 250 mpg highway (70 mph) and 500 mpg city (35 mph) with brake recovery is possible. But not with electrics....too much weight!

seaplaneguyseaplaneguy (1 месяц назад)
Nimm3, what is my mindblowing idea? I already stated it. So I repeat...

Make an engine that gets over 60% all the time and can also us other inputs, such as solar, wind, wave, geo...renewables. Make it to run on renewable as well as Natural Gas, and liquid fuels, such as alcohol, methanol, and all liquids of carbon fuels. Make that same engine low weight and high power density for distributed power for many small props for drones and aircraft that don't need runways. That is what I have in concept. I have read hundreds of patents and know how to solve this for the most part. Working out details now.

For example, I have a roadable airplane concept that could get you from San Francisco to Hawaii on $34.00 of Natural Gas pumped out of you house BY THE ENGINE (typically $1/gallon). That same roadable can be scaled from a 2 place commuter to a 20 place transport all that drives on the road as well as flies. At high speeds (more fuel burn) it can run on Natural Gas for most trips below 700 miles. Fly slow and the fuel economy goes up 3-4 times for long trips on Natural Gas. It is also super quiet, unlike the quad drones.

About 90-95% of the carbon fuels would be gone and the price of oil would be very very low. No need for Arab oil. No need for wars for oil. That same engine could use Coal with special filters and added systems and make Coal power plants "frequency and voltage" maintenance devices, thus moving all electrical generation to distributed generation via home solar with NG back up, and Coal or Natural Gas power plants as quick response power, unlike coal plants today that take a day to start up. No oil will be needed for most transit and house thermals as well as transit in the air short distances (<700 miles).

Can Elon Musk's concept get us there? NO Not even close. Batteries are much too heavy. Can mine? Yes!

I have a business path to 100's of billions in sales per year.... This could save 500+ Billion per year, if not a Trillion/year in costs in fuel alone. Musk's stinky nonsense just ADDs costs. Electricity is 15 cent/kw-hr = $5/gallon. The battery is $4/gallon...total $9/gallon. His junk is 9 times more expensive and that does not take into account the true costs of manufacture and weight costs associated with moving heavy batteries around town.

My 2 place roadable will be (without wings) 250 mpg highway, and 500 mpg city driving. Musk's nonsense is very heavy and thus makes a car many times heavier and thus much lower fuel economy. His junk is 100 mpg equiv.

The reason people will drive my roadable airplane is they DON"T DRIVE 80-95% of the time. They fly. Much better and faster transit. Much less risk of collision. My "pod" or cockpit has 4 feet of crash stroke for 70 mph head on crash protection. I was the first engineer in the world to do passenger airbags. I know how to do the crash protection from EXPERIENCE and new inventions. I worked in the field. I know the dark lies of the industry and how to give true crash protection. Nobody at the major manufacturer of airbags knows how to solve this. How do I know they don't know? I made them a offer to develop this crash protection and I presented my proposal to advanced development manager....they are clueless.... Sorry, but that is a fact. I used to work for them and I know how they think.

For example, can you make a car with four tires on the corner get super fuel economy? Answer NO! The 1/4 panel lock up is very deadly and crash risk is the major issue. You have to have a different layout to avoid lock up of two cars head on. Trucks need to have entirely different structures to give low weight vehicles a fighting chance to survive. There is a lot to this....not saying it is easy.

The critical factor is weight DIFFERENCE in vehicles. You cannot provide needed protection with just airbags (not enough stoke distance by 4+ times) and people are not stupid so they drive around in 8000 lb SUVs to save their butts. It is a rational and smart choice. Your compact Honda or eco car is a DEATH TRAP to say the least. Not one company even begins to address the needed crash protection, especially Tesla (since they are fat butts like an SUV), and how to even go about it. Clueless....VW's L1....look it up....joke. 800 lbs, 281 mpg....death on wheels. Formula 1 cages will NOT work.

I have been in crash protection since 1987. I worked with the founders of airbag technology. He was MY BOSS out of College. I speak German and worked with Porsche....did intern there. There is a way to get all of these companies switched over to my concepts....build it and they will come....or go out of business. You don't do it like Musk does it..... long discussion.... You have to have lots of companies competing....

I comment in hopes that somebody who truly wants to solve these problem will engage me in discussion and perhaps I can find the right connections. I tried the web page thing.... I want face to face with someone who can help me move the ball down the field faster. This is BILLIONS of dollar in nearly EVERY industry, from real estate, boats, airplanes, factories and on and on.

The engine is the key to real estate value, for example. In California you could raise the value of an apartment complex by 60% with a 5% investment with my engine technology. Think about the money in apartments alone! This could fun a company larger than Apple in clean energy. You find a 60-80% occupied complex that when full is $1 million. You buy it at $600,000 (typicial deals easy to find) and you turn it around with the energy advantage. It then is worth $1.6 million 6 months later. You can borrow out 75% via the major banks. You put in $200,000 in fix ups (paint, etc plus $30000-50,000 in engines) and you now can get a loan for $1.2 million. 600 + 200 =800 invested. 1200k -800k = $400k in pocket and you have a great ROI on the remaining equity that can be run for income to fund the operations, or sold. You now have $400,000 for the next deal. One person could become a billionaire like Trump just doing this with access to my engines. Again, the engine is key to real estate because real estate is about thermal envelope both cold and hot.

The engine also solves the water processing issues. It can do vapor compression distillation on solar, thus allowing sea water use with solar input...no fuels. Very little oil will be needed, mostly for plastics, as it should be. You gaseous for transit and heating and mostly solar thermal for power generation and electricity. Coal is the base when solar is not working and that coal is instant on and off. No Rankine cycle!

BTW, until you solve the coal issue you will not be cost effective. Coal plants are base power and they take a long time to start up due to the Rankine cycles used. When you can make coal instant on and off, you tap into cheap power that then can be used with renewables to a MUCH larger extent. You can turn the coal on and off when the renewables suddenly turn on and off. Right now we have to use Natural Gas, Diesel to maintain frequency and voltage topping power and power factor correction. Coal then can be use for this 24/7. My engine would make solar for about 2.6 cents/kw-hr and from NG about 5 cent/kw-hr. Coal is 1.8-2.5 cents/kw-hr. Typical solar PV is still 10-20 times that and it is not a pure sine wave, which then destroys the grid quality. My engine torques a synchronous motor and can be be made to run servers (like Google has) where the 1/2 sine wave is require to never be lost.... The distributed power nature creates a micro multi source grid that can have motors fail and still not drop the power and do so efficiently. No current IC engine tech can do this...

 Look, I am on the right track. Musk is a diversion to make his buddies rich. Hope that answers your question.

____ _________ _____ (1 месяц назад)
It's slightly funny to think that a modern combustion engine in one of the older light weight 1970's-80's european bodyshells without all the luxury items would yield the type of gas mileage you write home about.

nimm3nimm3 (1 месяц назад)
Juri Vlk I agree with you on that. But people wouldn't buy these cars. They want fast SUVs. Second you would just expand the time for gasoline cars. Gasoline is more valuable to use in aircrafts, ships and petrochemical industries. For the private mobile sector in my point of view a good electrical concept (hydrogen or batteries with a efficient second and third use and a good recycling) would be the ideal solution.

Juri VlkJuri Vlk (1 месяц назад)
@nimm3: My idea, and I'm not the same person as seaplaneguy, would first be to consume much less and to downsize cars on 400 kg or less with 1 liter of gas consumption on 100 km. This would multiply the time we can use petrol by about ten. And I'm sure that it is posible to make micro cars with 1 liter consumption.

Matthias SeidelMatthias Seidel (2 месяца назад)
This video has so many mistakes!
ALWAYS USE GLOVES, there is Nickel everywhere and also rest of dangerous electrolyte which can have HF acid (watch breaking bad to see its effect on a large scale)

Ckc dillpickleCkc dillpickle (1 месяц назад)
They did actually make meth in the show though.

Sidney LeVineSidney LeVine (1 месяц назад)
Matthias Seidel You know you're talking to a professional when they site a TV show for entertainment...

WalkertongdeeWalkertongdee (2 месяца назад)
FYI Its not Tezla

screamingshiterscreamingshiter (1 месяц назад)
thats funny.

WalkertongdeeWalkertongdee (1 месяц назад)
:) The Brits have screwed up English LOL

Jon CopleyJon Copley (2 месяца назад)
What kind of torch is that

Chris CarsonChris Carson (2 месяца назад)
Buy them. What a quaint idea. I have over 130 and I'm just getting started. Now I did toss about 100 in that endeavor.

ShponglasShponglas (2 месяца назад)
Can you weight cylinder and top/bottom caps separately or at least together?

Doesn't it had 2 rolls of seperator? Anode-seperator-cathode-seperator?

ayy lmaoayy lmao (2 месяца назад)
wrong information, the black foil is not lithium. it's usually made of aluminium covered with graphite and there is no metallic lithium in a li-ion battery. there are lithium ions, hence the name. these come from the electrolyte, which consists of a lithium salt dissolved in an organic solvent, not dry. and that demo at the end, it didn't catch fire. it burned with a red flame because of the lithium ions, but there is no metallic lithium. and pure lithium metal burns on it's own, you kept the flame on it for like 15 seconds, but it didn't burn, it just glowed.

George LukesGeorge Lukes (2 месяца назад)
this guy is pretty good at slicing cylinders apart, but other than that, he really doesn't know his anode from a lithium hole in the ground...

Chris WChris W (2 месяца назад)
I'm sorry, but describing the positive terminal as having more power than the negative terminal shows ignorance of how electricity works.

WoloszowWoloszow (1 месяц назад)
there is no metallic lithium in lithium rechargaeble battery

mozgovvvmozgovvv (1 месяц назад)
There is so much misinformation in this video. Not to mention that Lithium is being handled with bare hands....

El DiabloEl Diablo (2 месяца назад)
It's about a meter long, he just has really, really small hands.

ayy lmaoayy lmao (2 месяца назад)
no, he didn't show the full foil. it was only a part of it.

IfingerblastGranny'sIfingerblastGranny's (2 месяца назад)
Do not listen to this bullshitting goon.....he is a fcuking vegetable!

Eric KosakEric Kosak (2 месяца назад)
Could you post the weight of each of the foils as well as the weight of the shell?

Rrr GggRrr Ggg (2 месяца назад)
Tesla says they use in a battery: 80% Nickel, 15% Cobalt, 5% Aluminium, below 1% Lithium (cathode), Graphite and Silicon (anode) Lithium salt (electrolyte) + Aluminium or Copper (remaining elements)

Satongi FilmsSatongi Films (2 месяца назад)
you said you gonna show how it catches on fire easily, and all you did was burn it with a torch, what's up with that?

burt591burt591 (15 дней назад)
And even then it didn't catch fire :V

Model 3 Owners ClubModel 3 Owners Club (2 месяца назад)
Small correction: the black sheet is not pure lithium. It's a lithium carbonate mix that is deposited onto a thin sheet of aluminum. The amount of pure lithium in a Tesla cell only accounts for about 2% of it weight.

Ckc dillpickleCkc dillpickle (1 месяц назад)
He said the Lithium was inside of a a "cover" something like that.

Manuel de la ChicaManuel de la Chica (1 месяц назад)
Model 3 Owners Club THIS

Ivansky1Ivansky1 (2 месяца назад)

Zdeněk EisenhammerZdeněk Eisenhammer (2 месяца назад)
What if I told you he cut only a piece of the whole thing so that he could handle it more easily for the purpose of the demonstration?

Ray JonesRay Jones (2 месяца назад)
safe to handle

JRP3JRP3 (2 месяца назад)
This video has incorrect information. Lithium ion cells don't use metallic lithium in them, they use lithium ions. The black foil should be aluminum under the black cathode coating.
Also electrolytes are not powder they are liquid, probably LiPF6 in organic solvents, and other additives.

dosmastrifydosmastrify (1 месяц назад)
well its not like they are called lithium ion or anything.

Chris MillerChris Miller (2 месяца назад)
NCA cathode -> https://www.libgroup.net/NCA-for-lithium-ion-battery-cathode-materials-52-99-1.html
separator -> https://www.libgroup.net/Lithium-ion-battery-celgard-separator-for-16um%2C-20um%2C-25um-ion-exchange-membrane-54-278-1.html
anode -> https://www.libgroup.net/Copper-Foil-for-Battery-Anode-Substrate-53-205-1.html

IrãIrã (2 месяца назад)
Thanks, I will read it :)

Rob TreadwayRob Treadway (2 месяца назад)

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