Toxic culture of education: Joshua Katz at TEDxUniversityofAkron

  • Опубликовано: 2 май 2014
  • Joshua Katz is a high school math teacher in Orange County, FL.
    Joshua's Talk:
    In the mid 1800's, Horace Mann captured the potential impact of education on society. We have yet to realize the potential he saw, and in fact, we are missing the mark by a wider and wider margin. We have created a "Toxic Culture of Education" in our country that is damaging students, impacting our economy, and threatening our future. Since the passage of No Child Left Behind, we have embraced a culture of high stakes testing and are perpetuating a false sense of failure in our schools. We have ignored research and data on effective policy making practices in order to serve the interest of private industries that have monetized our students. The impact is being felt in communities, on college campuses, and in our economy. The solution lies in a common sense approach to student development, curriculum choice, career exploration, and relevant data analysis. This talk will present a vision of an education system that allows us to embrace our full potential if we only had the courage to ask "Why Not"?
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Комментарии • 1 427

    MOOG FAN День назад

    The National defense education act of 1957
    mandated math and science
    in response to the launch of Sputnik satellite .
    This threw practical training - shop/ mechanics / trades out of schoołs
    Call a air conditioning repair shop and see how many repairman they employ make over minimum wage...

    MOOG FAN День назад

    Why are we not training for available and attainable jobs???
    Don't need algebra
    Don't need Shakespeare
    Need to stop the hijacking of students lives

    MOOG FAN День назад

    Can you imagine if students were "allowed" to prepare for and study for the things they really want to do?

  • Sylani
    Sylani День назад

    Scary thought: He Is Right! (with MOST of what he says...)

  • Rich Davis
    Rich Davis 2 дня назад

    I found it particularly interesting that Mr. Katz blames private corporations, and both political parties too, but generally avoids criticizing the Department of Education. Obviously the Department is made up of people of both political parties, but I would've expected a more direct broadside against it. See, Katz is absolutely correct to condemn those who claim our previous educational "system" was defective, despite it producing great wonders and progress, not to mention to people making the claim it was defective (no one in the media ever seems to ask about this odd outcome). It's just that the things he presently complains about, and which I nearly completely agree with him on, have occurred under the guidance of the federal Department of Education. Now, just 39 years old, it has helped to oversee a tripling of spending in real dollars, with almost all of it at the administrative level. It's a bad deal for kids. It's a bad deal for taxpayers. It's a bad deal for America. Kill the DoEd.

  • 555harv
    555harv 2 дня назад

    This simplistic Marxist rhetoric is ridiculous. Blame private enterprise is all this poor man knows. Let him go to China to teach. See what happens tp him there.

  • Non-existent Dimwit
    Non-existent Dimwit 3 дня назад +1

    Those 350+ dislikes are from Pearson, McGraw-Hill, and ALEC.

  • Razvan Zamfir
    Razvan Zamfir 3 дня назад

    She had to multiply 2 times 9 with what?

  • B Neal
    B Neal 4 дня назад

    Truth🙌🏼 I’ve been preaching this to my peers and they agree!! Students want home ec want to know about the economy we want to know how to survive life. We want to learn and be happy. How many students have mental health disorders or are struggling with lack of sleep, food, basic objectives. Maslows hierarchy of need illustrates how basic needs are most valuable. I am sick of toxic education. We need people to advocate for us because our words, our lives aren’t worthy enough. The only time we seem to matter is when we’re being shot and even then they shut us down. Fight for the Natalie’s and fight for all students

    PAMELA TORRES 4 дня назад

    I wish I never went to school at all. It killed my creativity, it dismantled my self-confidence, and murdered my passion.

  • Nikhil Madhusudhan
    Nikhil Madhusudhan 5 дней назад

    I like how everyone rails against standardized exams and other sorts of written assessments of knowledge. The question is - what is the alternative?

  • Vlogger mayaisawesome
    Vlogger mayaisawesome 5 дней назад

    This gave me chills wow

  • Philan Le
    Philan Le 6 дней назад

    Such truth. This guy is gonna get shot in the head 🤕

  • Sebastian Feuerstein
    Sebastian Feuerstein 7 дней назад

    So True.

  • Hannah Davis
    Hannah Davis 8 дней назад

    I really agree with the idea bringing back Home Economics class and counting it as a math credit. Not only would the material that'd be taught would generally be math, it'd be measuring for cooking, fractions for building/sewing/mending, and how to calculate for financial reasons, it'd teach the life skills needed for students for when they become independent.

  • Nebula The Drennec
    Nebula The Drennec 9 дней назад

    My whole school was put at limited knowledge even though the smartest kids got an A on the state test.

  • David Rekt
    David Rekt 10 дней назад

    Where is the korean captions? I need to show this to my mom

  • parkviewmo
    parkviewmo 11 дней назад

    This man is speaking the truth. Those corporations are the villains. For "accountability " simply read "blame.," and blame gets shoved on those with less power.

  • Christina hewett
    Christina hewett 11 дней назад

    No wonder students are useless when it comes to home economics.

  • Shatford Chunderous
    Shatford Chunderous 11 дней назад

    Wow, in the thumbnail it's a motion blur of him wagging his finger at us.

  • Sweet Potato, BEST POTATO!!!
    Sweet Potato, BEST POTATO!!! 13 дней назад


    JUAN ALVAREZ 13 дней назад

    no rs mi ne gosio yo estoy fuera. no tengo dinero ni nada jjjj

  • snipersev07
    snipersev07 13 дней назад

    I take it back about Eddy Zhong's TED talk, this one is the best TED talk I've seen!!

  • El
    El 14 дней назад +1

    This was uploaded in 2014, it's 2018 and it seems like nothing has changed.

    • El
      El 6 дней назад

      Ok, but none of those were a benefit to us students, it just got even worse.

    • AFmedic6871
      AFmedic6871 12 дней назад +1

      I beg to differ with you! There has been 2 major changes during that 4 year time span:
      1) McGraw-Hill, Pearsons and others have gotten richer
      2) The education system is even more toxic

  • pro gamer
    pro gamer 14 дней назад

    I wish

  • Black Smith
    Black Smith 15 дней назад

    I feel that students are being pushed to far, by standardized testing. The teachers push the students to become great at the tests instead of doing what the educational system should be doing, preparing kids for life. I a ninth grader see that the system used in public schools is meant to teach kids about the upcoming standardized test, instead of what it should be teaching children about, which in my eyes should be what they show interest and preform well in! My education system (and yes I have a plan for a new education system) would require English/Language Art and Math classes until about the 8th year. Then they could "sample" (take the class for a full semester and have on-job experience) each class then decide which branch of jobs they would like to join, then assess classes based on that choice. There you have a fully grown teen by their last years that knows how to do a particular branch of jobs.

  • siobhan mulligan
    siobhan mulligan 15 дней назад

    This is the most awesome thing I have ever seen on the problems in public education!!

  • Ana Acapella
    Ana Acapella 16 дней назад

    Is there anyone in that room? O.o

  • Catherine Crawfis
    Catherine Crawfis 17 дней назад


  • The Mushroom Inside
    The Mushroom Inside 17 дней назад

    my old high school was so under funded due to academy's replacing the normal classes, to the point that printer paper became scarce and had to be smuggled in by students and teachers

  • Christopher Perry
    Christopher Perry 17 дней назад

    This man should be commended for his speech.

  • Origami and Cats
    Origami and Cats 18 дней назад

    From the drug war to health care, everything is run on the toxic model described here. Failure means we do more of the same. We buy the same product.

  • Sir Fish
    Sir Fish 18 дней назад +1

    348 dislikes from big education companies

  • FraktalFace
    FraktalFace 20 дней назад

    i had intense anxiety all throughout school and no one helped me deal with it.

  • 3506Dodge
    3506Dodge 20 дней назад

    The title should be "the dangers of standardized testing."

  • Nicole M. Jimenez Rosario
    Nicole M. Jimenez Rosario 20 дней назад

    In Puerto Rico one of the shallow ways of labelling someone as "brilliant" is if students score high in standardized testing, specifically the math section. These tests are from the United States, and Puerto Rico has its very own culture and social needs, very different from America. Yet, these tests are designed for American students, and when Puerto Ricans fail, they think they're not good enough. Their value is defined by their score of another country's standardized test. Very sad. They're not inclusive of diversity whatsoever. Changing notebooks for tablets, boards for PowerPoints and teachers for online courses isn't doing it. The problem is at the root.

  • Александра
    Александра 20 дней назад

    Stunning speach!

  • R.K. F.
    R.K. F. 21 день назад +1

    Germany and Austria have it figured out by getting those “Natalie’s” into tech high schools where their classes are geared toward their area of interest where they can begin to apprentice. They graduate with a certificate, diploma, or degree and experience in their field of interest and skill. Unemployment rates are very low there, and job satisfaction amongst those who have went this route is high.

  • Francis Thinkwell
    Francis Thinkwell 21 день назад

    People NEED to be educated correctly on how to think correctly, and basic thought fundamentals. That doesn't happen.....anywhere. People must be told who they are, correctly, or they cannot know the answers, thus choose. correctly for themselves.

  • Hunter Holly
    Hunter Holly 21 день назад

    ABUSE SOCIAL WELFARE??????????? Really? They can't get a job so they obviously they are abusing the system by trying to survive. YES I have been on social welfare.

  • Yuki senpai Heartfilia
    Yuki senpai Heartfilia 23 дня назад

    Unfortunately today almost no attention is given to the arts anymore. Yet everything we eat,wear, read,listen to and the houses we live in etc. were designed by some type of artists. Today children are taught that you have to be good at science, maths and physics in order to be seen as smart and when a child wants to pursue a career in the lines of something creative they are told that it won’t work and that they won’t be successful. As Albert Einstein said: “The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination.” No attention is given to creativity in schools anymore and the kids that are creative are like the fish being judged on their abilities to climb a tree.

  • cecenybaby
    cecenybaby 23 дня назад

    the education system is pretty much memorization for tests we don't really learn the subject, they teach us the subject we get tested on it then we move on to the next subject without really understanding what was learned previously . it wuld also be nice to learn something I would actually use in life.

  • DarkPointUnicorns
    DarkPointUnicorns 24 дня назад +1

    Ya, these talks are fine but what can they do? Schools don't care. You can draw a realistic masterpiece to bad you got an F in math! I bet no one is gonna read this and even if someone does it won't affect anything.

  • Nouf
    Nouf 24 дня назад

    I studied in three different education systems - one was American. And from experience, math and science in the American system was the most basic and easiest (American was a private prep-school but others were public schools). Dis-aggregating test results to remove "poverty" schools is irrelevant since it's an average whether in the US or elsewhere (not that I believe in standardized testing). There are many things to be admired by the American system: Extracurricular activities, public speaking skills, and generally confidence building in students. I prefer the American system simply because it is more well-rounded rather than strictly academic based, but definitely not stronger academically.

  • Joseph Gilbert
    Joseph Gilbert 24 дня назад

    Man, I want Matthew Mcconaughey to be my teacher

  • kgbme
    kgbme 25 дней назад

    Is it better to explain to that 16-year-old how to multiply (2x9), or simply prepare her for work in sanitation. Honesty's the best policy!

  • Sky Smith
    Sky Smith 25 дней назад +1

    This is why homeschool is so awesome its so much more personalized you can hand pick the books and choose which subjects to study if you live in the United States of America there's a homeschool fair called Teach Them Diligently its realy cool I think everyone should look into homeschool

  • Jimela Dora Kialo
    Jimela Dora Kialo 25 дней назад

    Great video links for educators: From Kitchen to the great lecture halls of the global knowledge hubs.

  • microsoft8 suxass
    microsoft8 suxass 25 дней назад

    the solution is a simple 7 step process
    1. provide vocational training (networking, programming, marketing/sales, small business development, etc)
    2. provide a class "mathematics of finance" to learn about interest rates and mortgages/loans
    3. provide a macro-economics, micro economics class
    4. provide a cooking class and home economics class and show students how to budget
    5. statistics and applications
    6. move college-level courses down to high school (AP, IB, etc)
    7. driving school

  • redhatgnome
    redhatgnome 27 дней назад


  • Stacy Thomas
    Stacy Thomas 27 дней назад

    We feel this at our house! We have 8 kids that span from 1 who has almost completed his PhD in nuclear medicine and composes and plays several instruments, to 3 that barely are passing and the schools are not helping because they don't do well on tests. We need to focus on what the kids need. Feed them REAL healthy foods so they can think straight, and get these darn tests out of the darn schools. OMG, YES! Please bring back HOME EC and the ARTS! Get the darn football out of the schools and get the kids learning arts and home ec! Bring back SHOP, Auto Body, Farming, and more! They do NOT need advanced math when they aren't going to college!

  • DestinyAnn1
    DestinyAnn1 28 дней назад

    Amazing speaker.

  • Stephanie
    Stephanie 28 дней назад

    Beautifully and so passionately said. I agree our education system is extremely toxic. I thank you for fighting for change and spreading awareness. Thank you!

  • Alexis Bernard
    Alexis Bernard 28 дней назад

    Well said

  • Manager Sejin Stan
    Manager Sejin Stan 29 дней назад

    I was doing peer tutoring and someone in Precalculus 11 didn't know what one divided by two was. I asked her what four divided by two was, and she said two. So then I asked what one divided by two was, and she still said two. I nearly killed myself.

    • Devon Ull
      Devon Ull 24 дня назад

      I was teaching senior undergraduates in the UC system and would ask them to tell me what a 15 percent change in the voltage of the membrane potential would be if it was resting at -50 millivolts and they could not answer. So then I asked them how many dollars shoes would cost if they were list price $50 and they were on sale for 15 percent off, and they instantly answered correctly. Turn math into units of dollars and everyone understands, say millivolts and they don't know what to do. But, this presenter does not really understand that the underlying problem with US academia is the pervasive spread of post-modernism ideas into policy. And you will probably agree with me that math is fundamental knowledge because it is logic, basic logic and reasoning. Math is thinking, differential equations is advanced thinking. It has value.

  • N B
    N B 29 дней назад

    The problem is that the students are not interested and if we could choose what we want to learn everything would be better.

  • Rush Yahr
    Rush Yahr 29 дней назад

    I've always wondered why people need math to be rigorous. I just like to ask questions about the concept I'm trying to learn, and try to find answers to that concept until I figure it out. Obviously, if you're taking a class where there are books that have good answers, then it's easier. Most of the time though, I use a combination of RUclip and Wikipedia. That's how I learned Trig. But the point is that it should be fun, it's more fun if it's fun, and you stay focused better if it's fun, and you learn better if it's fun.

  • Joshua Slingluff
    Joshua Slingluff 29 дней назад

    All I can say is Amen.

  • Jose Pepe
    Jose Pepe 29 дней назад

    4 years later and nothing had changed. I love how passionate he is about the subject and I hate how true and valid his points are.

  • Stephen Odell
    Stephen Odell 29 дней назад

    I met a man who wrote for Mc Grew Hill He wrote several text books on different subjects. He did not strike me as much of a scholar. Is it any wonder that we learn out of date information.

  • Geoffrey Harris
    Geoffrey Harris Месяц назад

    I agree with u that personality, character, temperament, and life background matter.

    • Geoffrey Harris
      Geoffrey Harris Месяц назад

      Test them for their big 5 personality characteristics, family background, and physical education. Also relevance is more important than rigor for many.

  • Geoffrey Harris
    Geoffrey Harris Месяц назад

    The teachers are the enemy. The tests are the ally against them. I got ahead via iq tests back when I was 5-years-old.

  • Geoffrey Harris
    Geoffrey Harris Месяц назад

    The tests do measure aptitude and can measure improvement.

  • Cole Hartis
    Cole Hartis Месяц назад

    This is solid gold. So accurate and so poignant.

  • Nancy Kilroy
    Nancy Kilroy Месяц назад

    I had a middle school science teacher have us tear out shapes. There was no point and was less demanding than crafts I did in kindergarten... often she just never showed up. Standards of accountability might cut short all the teachers I had who just never showed up in class. Getting enough sleep and eat is really home disruption not school. Basic living classes and trade craft -apprenticeships, are useful for many non college bound students.

  • Manny Capellan
    Manny Capellan Месяц назад

    The best👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • Galaxy
    Galaxy Месяц назад

    Loving this argumentation. Still think there should be some kind of "emotional impact" class given to (future) teachers though.

  • Wallace Moore
    Wallace Moore Месяц назад

    I hope this guy runs for office/presidency

  • joe anonymous
    joe anonymous Месяц назад

    pitiful, this is nonsense.

  • nicholas fotou
    nicholas fotou Месяц назад

    After my first year of high school, we stopped standardized testing and followed a path similar to what this guy is saying. My grades improved, and I am doing things I believed I couldn't back then.

  • donnell outlaw
    donnell outlaw Месяц назад

    "Dear Bored of Education"- Propaganda

  • doggiesarus
    doggiesarus Месяц назад

    That's why I quit teaching! Never again!

  • SpartakBG
    SpartakBG Месяц назад

    1 second ago
    He said he's beliefs is is Horace Mann philosophy. Take a quick search on you tube about the guy.... and you'll see that this form of education is fraud. He gives a touching backstory... too bad he didnt have any statistics or claims to back what he is saying.

  • 789 ___
    789 ___ Месяц назад

    Its a little absurd to start with that the kids want to learn in the first place,
    A lot of the kids in my science class are little shits that don't value education or care about learning.
    and its probably really painful for teachers to be motivated to teach little shits all day.
    and additionally teenagers are inconsistent so wtf do you expect. if they don't strongly value learning than they're not going to learn. so you need to force feed facts down every one's throughts to make up for the ones that don't care. Than the ones that do value learning have to suffer because their potential is usually more than the busy work they are expected to do.

  • G Wind Star River
    G Wind Star River Месяц назад

    "..policies and laws written over steak dinners & campaign contributions..." So true. Ugh

  • G Wind Star River
    G Wind Star River Месяц назад

    Wow, this guy is great! Thank you for your words and passion regarding our kids lives!!! He's right. The public narrative must be shifted!

  • ibuprofenPill
    ibuprofenPill Месяц назад

    Why isn't this guy Secretary of Education? Instead we have a complete moron.

  • Raging boy
    Raging boy Месяц назад

    If it was toxic, would I be dead by now?

  • Marcus S
    Marcus S Месяц назад

    We need to become like finland, they have alot less tests and focus more on skills and developing the children as good people.

  • Nikhil Katakam
    Nikhil Katakam Месяц назад

    I'm surprised this is spoken in the US now. The same has been true at least for the past 30 years in India (Where I come from and I know it's true) and other Eastern Countries (where I have friends)

  • Z W
    Z W Месяц назад

    Teachers has a degree, but not all are prepared to educate children. Some spend the whole day shouting and degrading the childrens' soul. Also many teachers do not give the best of themselves because they said they are not paid well. Gossiping and ignoring bad behaviors of some children. Public education is the worst. You get what you paid.

  • B S
    B S Месяц назад


  • Mayor Of Simpleton
    Mayor Of Simpleton Месяц назад

    "I know you don't like how things are; neither do I. But that is not up to me to decide."
    I can't tell you how many times these words have been uttered by my teachers. It's despicable. Truly. How children are not the school system's first priority is beyond me.

  • Mayor Of Simpleton
    Mayor Of Simpleton Месяц назад


  • Keoki johnson
    Keoki johnson Месяц назад

    I'm posting this because it's true.

  • Dragon
    Dragon Месяц назад

    do all the things! I do think we need the basic math and science stuff up to like halfway through middle school, and if the students know what they are gonna do for a living give them the classes they need to achieve their goal, or if they don't know what to do, keep them going through the "standard untill they do know what they are gonna do

  • E turnall
    E turnall Месяц назад

    guess what this all does not matter we have less and less jobs as they have moved to other countries not to mention technology does not have a big need for human interaction. this guy should have spent his time working on solutions for humanity as we know it . all these compaines are about greed look at what has happen to us because of there greed. non profit we all know that is a joke . personal this and personal that what if then there here this so called bad development of children does not matter with a world with not enough .

  • SomeGuyWithAFace9
    SomeGuyWithAFace9 Месяц назад

    when i was done watching this video i nearly stood up and started clapping in my own room

  • _Isaac _Workman
    _Isaac _Workman Месяц назад

    I’m in 12th grade and I’m still at an 8th grade math level.
    I don’t know if I should feel bad about that or not.

  • Nachannachle
    Nachannachle Месяц назад

    Seriously, the "No child left behind" is all BS. You can't make all Human equal in abilities.
    It's *nice* to try, but to mantra oneself that it is actually achievable is just...delusional.
    I do believe in FAILURE as a way to find one's way and growth. IF you fail at something, it TELLS you something crucial about yourself or what you are missing/where you don't fit. The key to life is RESILIENCE, not Academics, not credentials or Money or Skills.
    I will argue that the 3rd grader would NOT suffer from anxiety if s/he understood that the grade matters BS in the grand scheme of things. So, let's not blame the TESTS (there will ALWAYS be ones, especially in Romantic relationships and Careers), let's just keep throwing challenges at students and teach them HOW to ride the difficult parts so that they become independent and mentally strong people.

  • andeephysics
    andeephysics Месяц назад

    This is really a powerful speech. I am blown away!!! I hear you Sir!

  • petmensan
    petmensan Месяц назад

    Govermemt screwed up education, so the obvious way to fix it is more government. He must have taken a government sponsored logic class

  • Emancipate Llamas
    Emancipate Llamas Месяц назад

    I was waiting throughout the whole talk for some people in suits to storm the room and take the dude off the stage. Like, dude, don't expose all their secrets...

    • AFmedic6871
      AFmedic6871 12 дней назад

      I especially enjoyed his little dig at Bill Gates.

  • Dennis R. Levesque
    Dennis R. Levesque Месяц назад

    You made the same mistake that "toxic culture" did. Both of you confuse knowledge with intelligence. You complain about their unintelligence, while they complain your lack of knowledge. What good is one without the other? Both of you defend your own position without acknowledging any validity of the other. Neither of you will find the answer by condemning the other. Both of you need to work together instead of fighting. Ya ain't assmart asya think ya is.

  • Menelik Tavares
    Menelik Tavares Месяц назад


  • KGB
    KGB Месяц назад

    All Principals neeed to get spammed with this video.

  • Jenna Novello
    Jenna Novello Месяц назад

    i’m watching this right after taking a standardized writing test

  • Gabriel Zimmerman
    Gabriel Zimmerman Месяц назад

    It is tragic that public education doesn't teach significant history, logic, Euclidean geometry, Natural Law, existential philosophy, and more than 3 forms of a sentence. Unfortunately, I foresee our failed education system continuing to contribute to the insanity and ignorance that fuels this relativistic, progressive dark age. Dance puppets!

  • Callum Boyd
    Callum Boyd Месяц назад

    i mean to be fair it wasnt the american education system that put a man on the moon, it was germanys

  • Saima Talpur
    Saima Talpur Месяц назад

    Toxic culture, toxic teachers !! We badly need teachers like you .