Toxic culture of education: Joshua Katz at TEDxUniversityofAkron

  • Опубликовано: 2 май 2014
  • Joshua Katz is a high school math teacher in Orange County, FL.
    Joshua's Talk:
    In the mid 1800's, Horace Mann captured the potential impact of education on society. We have yet to realize the potential he saw, and in fact, we are missing the mark by a wider and wider margin. We have created a "Toxic Culture of Education" in our country that is damaging students, impacting our economy, and threatening our future. Since the passage of No Child Left Behind, we have embraced a culture of high stakes testing and are perpetuating a false sense of failure in our schools. We have ignored research and data on effective policy making practices in order to serve the interest of private industries that have monetized our students. The impact is being felt in communities, on college campuses, and in our economy. The solution lies in a common sense approach to student development, curriculum choice, career exploration, and relevant data analysis. This talk will present a vision of an education system that allows us to embrace our full potential if we only had the courage to ask "Why Not"?
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Комментарии • 1 371

  • ADerpyReality
    ADerpyReality 5 часов назад

    It's already been proven that standardised testing and IQ tests are BS.

  • Brandon Liao
    Brandon Liao День назад

    The fact that when I asked 10 teachers if this is true and they replied yes, it says something about our education system.

  • Nailah
    Nailah 3 дня назад

    Damn, Josh. Preach. *starts slow clap*

  • D
    D 4 дня назад

    This man is talking with passion

  • deanhydra
    deanhydra 7 дней назад

    Man speaks truth. Every job I've worked since college hasn't required my degree.
    We'd benefit from what's going on in Germany with their apprenticeship programs for high schoolers. Too many kids going the college route and not enough trade schoolers and entrepenuers. Being raised to be cogs in the machine. Wish i was it earlier

  • josh lawton
    josh lawton 7 дней назад

    Wait what just happened....its 12 and im watching a ted talk...and I understood it?

  • The Phoenix
    The Phoenix 7 дней назад

    Oh so true. Our politicians have fixed something that is not broken.

  • Serge Vivier
    Serge Vivier 7 дней назад


  • SeraphimTheOrthodox
    SeraphimTheOrthodox 8 дней назад

    LMAO...he thinks we put a man on the moon!

  • SeraphimTheOrthodox
    SeraphimTheOrthodox 8 дней назад

    Happy to have found this channel. It's pretty cool.

  • Katlyn Butschek
    Katlyn Butschek 9 дней назад

    Very well said. Wow.

  • Luke Wickman
    Luke Wickman 11 дней назад


  • Zombie Chicken
    Zombie Chicken 11 дней назад

    Its actually pretty simple, remove all out of school mandatory assignments.

  • Modus Ponens
    Modus Ponens 13 дней назад

    A beautiful rant. Follow the money. Cui bono.

  • Malachi Taylor
    Malachi Taylor 13 дней назад

    Pearson: Hi you just brought 200 dollars textbook but in order to do your homework please pay extra 200 for the access code that will only last few weeks

  • jim bob
    jim bob 14 дней назад

    Man I feel SO WoKe Now

  • George R
    George R 15 дней назад

    college IS A WASTE

  • wallis victor
    wallis victor 15 дней назад

    He is right

  • Vanessa Bourcier
    Vanessa Bourcier 15 дней назад

    Thanks. This is great. A wake-up call that more people should hear.

  • TropicalCyclone
    TropicalCyclone 15 дней назад

    School has a wrong motive

  • Amber Wood
    Amber Wood 15 дней назад

    Dude keeps getting hotter with each passing minute. Lol

  • Shiza Shaikh
    Shiza Shaikh 16 дней назад

    Epic. Give this guy an Oscar.

  • Interfierce Racing
    Interfierce Racing 16 дней назад

    My father is probably going to pull me out of all public schools so I can focus more on my life and learn more

  • ginger8149
    ginger8149 17 дней назад

    i can relate this to England we need to stay in school until 18

  • CJ
    CJ 17 дней назад

    Joshua Katz for president.

  • CJ
    CJ 17 дней назад

    University of Akron how random for my home school to show up here.

  • Daniela Bunyip
    Daniela Bunyip 17 дней назад

    I love how angry he is!! And he should be angry - we all should be. Public education is a money grabbing scam.

  • ashley Hurst
    ashley Hurst 17 дней назад

    I truly appreciate this guy. He's spot on. Nothing more to be said.

  • Emily Sapp
    Emily Sapp 18 дней назад

    Countless videos on this but no changes. How do we make this happen, people? We're all sticking our toes in the water and sending little ripples of opinions but that's not going to change anything. We need a tsunami damn it!

  • blue magus
    blue magus 18 дней назад

    third grade to write your own name?... that was kindergarten. count by twos to twenty in grade 9? that was grade 2

  • Dapper McStàche
    Dapper McStàche 19 дней назад

    Wow.. 'bout halfway through the talk he starts getting as passionate as an old fashioned preacher.. :/

  • mukunda ramana nakkana
    mukunda ramana nakkana 20 дней назад

    Wow! Excellent speech.

  • Devyn Stroshine
    Devyn Stroshine 21 день назад +1

    Money runs politics. Politics run schooling. Schooling pushes students into college and blue collar jobs. Blue collar jobs are working for money. So the money can get richer. Not good enough for school? Well, your built for a white collar job, working once again, for the money.

  • Natalie Euley
    Natalie Euley 21 день назад

    When you are watching this video and you were the fastest equation solver in your class but your name is Natalie lol

  • Heather Griffin
    Heather Griffin 22 дня назад

    What a great talk. His passion and knowledge is inspiring. It is broken, it is tired and it is not serving the students and future working citizens. A majority percentage of careers are going to be automated in the next decades, we need to overhaul this NOW...or as we are now thinking for our daughter, she has done 1 yr of high school and it feels like a teen daycare...she learns more at home on breaks. Unschooling so that our smart, self-starting daughter has a happy life, respects herself and finds earlier what she wants to do. That being said, I support his comments about the truth about teachers, they are working hard...but so often their hands are tied - and many other factors as he said with students..anyway...tricky. Here in Canada our Prime Minister was a high school teacher - uhhhhh President Katz has a cool ring ;) Just sayin'

  • link _ is _ not _ zelda
    link _ is _ not _ zelda 22 дня назад

    I am currently in 8th grade and I'm doing algebra 1 and up until this point I was an honor roll student. Now I have realized that the math teacher doesn't care about success. She punishes students for asking how what we learn will apply later in life and does one lesson a week then moves on to something completely different. She also only puts in grades for homework which we get about 9 pages from a book every week.

  • TigerbubbleProduction
    TigerbubbleProduction 24 дня назад +3

    I used to think education was a glorious and wonderful thing. But now in middle school, I feel like school is only programming people and turning them into robots. Whenever people do bad on tests, people blame themselves for not having the ability to learn. I had a teacher once in math, and she wasn't a very well teacher, and it killed my hope for learning math. So I hope for a better education system, without SBAC.

  • Katherine Gair
    Katherine Gair 24 дня назад

    It's truly inspiring how much passion he has for education

  • GrayscaleRainbows
    GrayscaleRainbows 25 дней назад

    I don't know a whole bunch about it but it sounds like the schooling system Joshua is looking for is very similar to the one used in Germany in which everyone does the same schooling up to a point to gain the necessary basics (I believe it would be around the middle school age in comparison to american schooling?) and then they get the opporunity to either test into Gymnasium, which is the schooling for college bound students, or they move into a form of trade school that teaches the real world readiness for jobs that may not necessiarily need a college degree and then from there they could move into an apprentanceship if needed to actually gain insight and experience in those jobs and honestly that kind of system seems like exactly what we need here. It removes the stigma of not going to college and also readies the youth for jobs in a way our current system does not.

  • Ryan Robichaud
    Ryan Robichaud 25 дней назад

    Fantastic talk!

  • Mitch Zro
    Mitch Zro 25 дней назад

    He didn't stutter once, he didn't miss a beat. This dude is remarkably talented, and he spoke such revolutionary words.
    One day I will spawn a child. But that day will not come until this man's message has been enacted.

  • FenrirHere
    FenrirHere 26 дней назад

    Don't get me wrong, I agree with legitimately almost everything Joshua has said, however, I do think there are bad teachers, and they should be fired immediately, and or hire better, more charismatic, teachers.

  • Mike Salka
    Mike Salka 26 дней назад

    Natalie still got a participation medal , No Child Left Behind was a great idea...

  • Zantar 16
    Zantar 16 27 дней назад

    Obama ruined the system implementing common core and no child left behind, it hold back smarter kids

  • Nexus 6
    Nexus 6 27 дней назад

    One of the best TED talks, period.

  • vincent bertin
    vincent bertin 28 дней назад


  • Harrison420
    Harrison420 28 дней назад

    I literally failed Algebra 1 in 9th Grade...

  • Gerry C
    Gerry C 28 дней назад

    Yeah why not start by throwing away the entire current roots of our education system. Dewey!
    No more progressive education no "Grades" K-12. No more passing people to the next "grade" if they fail. Education has to be building blocks you must succeed at A before you move on to B. Education should be individualized not geared to the lowest common denominator. I 100% disagree that our schools are filled with great teachers not failed ones. In my own experience in Public High School there were only maybe 6 good teachers out of the 24 teachers I had. And almost all of the rest were either terrible or incompetent.

  • Alejandro Engdal
    Alejandro Engdal 29 дней назад +1

    This will never happen, humanity is doomed, might as well kill ourselves, especially if you aren't over 70 years old.

  • Just Anoman
    Just Anoman 29 дней назад

    I agree with you in general but...
    Are you sure this is relevant for the "Natalie"s? a 16 year old who can't do basic arithmetic (not the logarithm, binomials etc which I agree are not necessary for everyone, but basic arithmetic). How do you expect to live a functional life with out that skill? I mean sure, you can go into a business that have nothing to do with math(tattoo artist etc), but even then you will have to deal with money, and this level of math is required for just dealing with money. Calculators and computers can only get you so far, it's not like you can use them for every calculation. And I doubt that they can even get the order of operation right for any slightly more complex problem. I mean you even mentioned bringing back home economics (and not the cooking kind) because that teaches useful life skill. I agree with you on that, that is useful, but your Natalie can't possibly do even that.
    I mean there must be some minimal standard of knowledge to be a functional member of society. No logarithm, statistic or calculus? Fine. But you need basic arithmetic. No second language, Latin root conjectures, or memorizing words that you will never need, as found on the back of SAT guides? Sure, that's fine too. But you do need basic English skills, enough to at least read your local newspaper (which, by the way, are designed with low education level in mind, or at least should be)
    And I can't even imagine what extend of non-cognitive would affect a person this much that they can't do basic arithmetic.
    I'd say you gave a rather bad example. Because Natalie isn't a victim of toxic education standard, which I assume you are going for. No, Natalie would need "help" no matter what form of education system exist, unless you count a full welfare state where any and all knowledge and skill are not needed.

  • Lamb Chop
    Lamb Chop 29 дней назад +5

    That speech had heart.

  • TheAmazingBlobfish
    TheAmazingBlobfish 29 дней назад

    I would love to sit down in a room with this man and just talk for hours.

  • Shivendra Kadam
    Shivendra Kadam 29 дней назад +1


  • Jay Waller
    Jay Waller Месяц назад

    I'm a Natalie. Math sucks cuz I RARELY understand it and when we do one lesson in a week and I finally understand, we move on to something else. So sometimes I quit and get myself in trouble lol

  • meridiannemesis
    meridiannemesis Месяц назад

    When the country I live in had socialism, the education had everything he is talking about, but after the system change everything was changed and now you are noone if you don't have a university degree. Although uni is free here, now we simply don't have skilled workforce. Don't get me wrong, we don't want socialism back, but we want our old education system back.

  • Maik4613
    Maik4613 Месяц назад +1

    poor Natalies

  • Sergio Samayoa
    Sergio Samayoa Месяц назад

    World needs ACTUAL SKILLS no artist!

  • gtafan110010
    gtafan110010 Месяц назад

    He made some good points, but, tbh, a good amount was also plain bullcrap.

  • Nicolas Boddiford
    Nicolas Boddiford Месяц назад

    Personal responsibility. Parental responsibility.

  • meghapaige
    meghapaige Месяц назад


  • CwalkPinoy
    CwalkPinoy Месяц назад

    people wonder why parents aren't teaching kids how to do taxes and drive and all that when they're in school. the kids wake up at 5am, stay till 2pm, do homework, eat dinner, and go to sleep. there's no time to teach kids life skills during the 12 grades. there's barely time to entertain themselves. the weekends go by so quickly. breaks are used for vacations. and right after highschool they're stuffed into dorms with no way to know which way is up. then we wonder why college dropout rates are so high when kids are expected to pay thousands for classes that simply don't matter out of their parents pockets since in their day college was affordable. and this is before a lot of kids know what degree they even want. a lot of them change majors, realize they wasted a ton of cash and just have to eat it. and the cost is so high because colleges need to build new palace dorms for the bourgeois. the kids with that money who can pay their way through school without a care in the world. there is a very large discrepancy between community colleges and universities. i talked to a lot of people between those 2 schools and in uni there were mostly middle class students that may have to take out a loan or rely on financial aid. in community college it's the single moms who need decent work and the guys working 3 jobs on top of classes. when we wonder why male suicide rates are so high it is because we are instilling a failing education into our future men that are biologically wired to work in a dying job market that can barely sustain itself, let alone every man who needs a job. it's no wonder that men are not equipped to deal with how the system currently works and decide that life isn't worth it anymore. the education system needs a total revamp to accommodate for societal changes. 1 or 2 electives in a school that has merely 10 to choose from is very little selection for such a huge pool of careers.

  • Leonard Bullock
    Leonard Bullock Месяц назад

    Brother Joshua seems to be speaking to an empty auditorium here. That's a suspicion, but perhaps it's the reason he seems have no sense of pacing, which is often determined by ones audience. I prefer the talks that give us some pan through the public. Let's see who's there. How are they responding? Everyone wants to do a Ted talk, and load it on Facebook. Why is this forum so attractive? Is there a Ted confirmation? Does one receive the Ted bona fides?

  • Drestanto
    Drestanto Месяц назад

    "We somehow took, the education system that produce the individuals to put a man on the moon, with technology less powerful than the phone in my pocket, and characterize that education system as a failure using the word accountability."
    - Joshua Katz -
    Nice quotes, because it's very ironic. Thanks

  • Jan Robert Olea
    Jan Robert Olea Месяц назад

    This is seriously a good talk.

  • Karina Izer
    Karina Izer Месяц назад

    I need you to come to my school

  • Alex Carlile
    Alex Carlile Месяц назад

    I would marry this video

  • Village Platinum Productions
    Village Platinum Productions Месяц назад +1

    it was German Scientists that put us on the moon. Yes there were plenty of products of the American educational system involved, but the leader of the project was a German and we had many other Germans on the project as well.

  • caroline-jane Hall
    caroline-jane Hall Месяц назад

    To right but this isn't just a problem in the USA.

  • Your Mom's Tits
    Your Mom's Tits Месяц назад

    This guy needs more Rigor.

  • SharebNZ
    SharebNZ Месяц назад

    Brilliant. The problem here in NZ too. This is why we homeschool.

  • droid264
    droid264 Месяц назад

    100% agreement. Very good talk

  • Pepe
    Pepe Месяц назад

    The moment when somebody like Donald Trump is the president of the United States, when this guy could also be it, or atleast Secretary of Education.

  • Don Dressel
    Don Dressel Месяц назад

    EXCELLENT talk
    Unfortunately everything in our country the US is about money
    It affects us all in one way or another
    From our educations system to health care
    A few are making millions at the expense of our population

  • Docent Stef
    Docent Stef Месяц назад

    A very truthful message. Too bad there aren't enough people really wanting a better future, for our children. Time for teachers to make their own teaching methods that last more years than the books used. And nice link to The Incredibles by the way

  • alyssa b
    alyssa b Месяц назад

    LOVE love LOOOve this.

  • britters220
    britters220 Месяц назад

    The pit falls of a capitalist society developing into a fascist state.

  • Cirvo Zed
    Cirvo Zed Месяц назад

    I agree with his point but expecting a highschooler to do single digit multiplication is not expecting a fish to climb a tree, it is a really bad example to start with.

  • TheCringyGamer _
    TheCringyGamer _ Месяц назад

    I hope this changes soon. I'm in 10th grade right now and I am not having a good time. Ever since I've been in 9th grade things have been downhill. And WHOA some teachers in my school are complete knobheads. But seriously this HAS to change.

  • Craig MacDermott
    Craig MacDermott Месяц назад

    military if possible become a Military Officer with a b.a. or a warrant officer with a trade. but that what you get for going to college for a useless major so you can support useless college professors that could not make it in the real world or run there own business.

  • Craig MacDermott
    Craig MacDermott Месяц назад

    most public school are a joke and out dated better off doing cyber school and working half the day or going to a vo tech half of the day if possible.

  • nas info
    nas info Месяц назад

    I like this idea

  • Megan Pechal
    Megan Pechal Месяц назад +1

    This is one of many reasons why I have chosen to homeschool.

  • tjzx3432
    tjzx3432 Месяц назад

    My 9th grade year algebra class, for 8 out of the 9 months we had school, we had a bunch of different substitutes. Needless to say I didn't connect to any of their teaching styles, and most of the class failed that year.

  • SRose .fournillier
    SRose .fournillier Месяц назад

    Awesome. Standing ovation. I thought maths. I felt like a failure bc the classes were over 20 students, most troubled. And i had the same deadline to cover the same sylabus as kuds from prestigious skls. The skls and the teachers get the blame. I wanted to make a difference but i never nit the resources or time and the head of department still demanded a test at the end of ever semester. I am in corporate now. And i dont put that presure on my kids.

  • Mark Fagouri
    Mark Fagouri Месяц назад

    The sound of passion

  • Lynn Ferrell
    Lynn Ferrell Месяц назад

    This is so spot on.

  • Jared Mcdonough
    Jared Mcdonough Месяц назад

    That was amazing. Everything he had to say was always hiding in the back of my mind, but now the more i say it out loud the more i have become enlightened on what's really going on. I'm a junior in high school and i feel like ive learned nothing to help me in the real world. I know how to remember information for 24 hours and then right it down on a piece of paper.

  • Alex Stepanchuk
    Alex Stepanchuk Месяц назад

    He said all I held inside. Defund public schools and privatise it. Go Betsy devose

  • Jerry Of All Trades
    Jerry Of All Trades Месяц назад

    Seriously. Life skills shouldn't be an optional elective. I shouldn't have had to choose between more rigorous math courses when I barely passed the ones before, or to "give up" by not taking math classes anymore.

  • Double Donkus
    Double Donkus Месяц назад +1


  • Om 254
    Om 254 Месяц назад

    Joshua Katz
    I agree with you 100%, you are a genius!

  • Josh White
    Josh White Месяц назад

    I go to a school in Newfoundland Canada , it’s not much different

  • Scott M
    Scott M Месяц назад

    Standarized tests don't label a student a failure. Your grades do. The ACT does. Your teacher does. Also the whole argument of teaching students beauty school skills at 14 and up instead of Math, English and History is a good idea but I don't see schools implementing it. Because it would entail hiring a lot of teachers who specialize in specific area's. Costs too much. The kid would have to leave and work during school hours. That's too radical for government schools. Charter schools might.

  • Annus6 Lol
    Annus6 Lol Месяц назад

    Why is he laughing...

  • Jay Urbanik
    Jay Urbanik Месяц назад

    When are we going to realize that this symptom is across the board in our society. Weather it be Healthcare, Justice, Peace, Education, etc..Perfecting our institutions and our world means a better quality of life for the majority but less power and wealth for the few. Our society and economy needs people to stay sick, embrace ignorance, embrace war and crime to remain profitable for the few.

  • Red Hood
    Red Hood 2 месяца назад

    I have been severely depressed since the 3rd grade. THE 3RD GRADE. I'm doing better now, but during my time in elementary school, I tried to kill myself 10 times. I have never done well in school. I stopped being able to do my homework in the 3rd grade because of how bad my depression was. I'm in the 9th grade now, unable to go to school because of my anxiety. I haven't been to school in a month. He's mad. I'm mad. Educators and parents need to get mad. School is killing me and most of the kids I know. It's eating us from the inside out. As a society, we need to be mad. If children are our future why aren't we taking care of them?

  • The Wolf525
    The Wolf525 2 месяца назад

    I find that I like my teachers more they give me the chance to explain my mistakes, I understand what an excuse is but there is a big difference between explaining why you were wrong, or explaining why you think you are correct and giving evidence and reasoning. But, How can I *explain* my point of when I say why I think I’m right I am brushed off as using an excuse but If I have good reasoning and you still don’t listen to me and don’t give me a reason why I am *wrong* and how your opinion is correct than how can I learn from you? How can I learn from someone who can’t respect my opinion as much as they would my parents. Just because I am younger than you does not change anything. Just because I am being told to learn and listen from you does not mean than I am less than you, That I am less capable than you. I love teachers that take the students opinion into consideration, If I am taking a minute break between every ten questions or if I want to start with question 50 rather than question 1 then I have a reason. I do not enjoy being patronized and I hope to see improvement in the future from out teachers, our principles, and anyone else who underestimates others.
    I have always had the habit of drawing on my papers as I work with one hand while I work because I have a difficult time working on one thing at once without something to listen to or something to do with my hands. My teacher got mad at me because of it and I explained myself, I said, “I Draw on the sides of my paper as I work because it helps me work better and it gives my hands something to do while I think.” My Teacher replies, “Your Drawings are a distraction from your work, You can’t work on something with using your hands at the same time, Maybe you should try a stress ball?” I attempted to explain how A stress ball would not help, They are distracting and I personally have a hard time working with something larger In my hands. To add on, How does a teacher know how I best work? How can they force one way of doing things apon us when we the students might have a hard time with the way teachers or principles, etc. think we need to work.
    Also, Why do I need to do something I am not interesting in? I personally do not enjoy learning about Music history, or how scoliosis affects our spine. I want a profession in animation and I honestly do not think that High level science will help me in the way I need help. I hope one day we can teach all students equally and take in their opinions and what we need for us to be able to work correctly.

  • Dr Cyan
    Dr Cyan 2 месяца назад

    Joshua Katz, you have been added to the credits list.

  • Rose Quartz
    Rose Quartz 2 месяца назад

    Huh. I was born in the year 2000. Now that I think about it, the tests really have messed up schools because Kindergarten hit my younger brother hard, but when I was in Kindergarten, it wasn't so hard in 2005 vs. 2007 when my brother went. What I've concluded from your talk is that only born-intelligent people will be able to succeed if we don't get rid of these negative policies. From what I remember about standardized tests in elementary schools, I didn't even know what the tests were. They barely registered. No one really told me what I was doing. I just did it, but no one told me what the score was, or was supposed to be. But I'm an introvert; No one talked to me in the first place. But you're totally right about these honors kids who obsess over grades and check them every ten minutes. I know so many kids like that, but I myself have never bothered to remember to check grades. I just do the work I'm given and get a good score back. I always do that. I often can't even fathom what stupidity my peers must be slathering on quiz papers in order to get bad grades and anxiety about impending bad scores.I'm a born-intelligent young person, and I have the problem of expecting everyone I meet to be on the same mental level as I am, but I always am disappointed. Now these Natalies, gosh, well, I knew what 2x9 was in the 3rd grade. I remember learning to write my name in CURSIVE in the 3rd grade, and I still can write in cursive. I think we need to start teaching cursive again.I agree that we do need to start teaching less intelligent people more practical skills. I hate that all my high school teachers are terrified of getting fired just because students might not do well on standardized tests.I'm thinking of becoming a teacher myself. I want to teach students what they actually need to know.

  • gameradiation
    gameradiation 2 месяца назад

    What we need to do is to take action, the only way that this can change is if we do something about it. We need to start putting together events and petitions to changes these policies. Because we can complain and say that the system needs to change all we want but until we take action and bring forth solutions to these problems that's all that these will be, problems and complaints. So please reply to this comment, like it, share it, do whatever you need to do to get this call to action out there. Because I don't want to see the only future that this country has be brought up in a education system that puts performance assessments and test scores before the dreams and well being of the students and have this country be put to ruin because some businesses wanted more money.