Lightsaber Fencing Is Now A Thing In France (HBO)

  • Published on May 7, 2019
  • About a year ago, the French Fencing Federation (FFF) was facing an existential challenge: the number of young people interested in traditional fencing was declining, and French kids were more interested in staring at their screens than showing up to like parry a la 16th century dukes.
    That's why the FFF made a very controversial decision: to elevate lightsaber fencing - up to that point a cosplay-esque pursuit of Star Wars enthusiasts - to the same status as Olympic-level fencing.
    “We already do artistic fencing,” FFF President Isabelle Lamour told VICE News. “It’s historic. So if we can have ancient fencing, why not have futuristic fencing?”
    The rule change seemed innocent enough, but considering the three weapons used in traditional fencing haven’t changed in about 200 years, it's no surprise that adding lightsabers to the mix really ruffled a lot of feathers.
    “Disney is not really welcome, I’m sorry,” traditional fencer Alban Garrouste told VICE News, referring to Lucasfilms' parent company. “Fencing is a huge part of the French identity, so I think we should stick to [its] values and historical origins.”
    For now, France is going it alone, with no other countries inquiring if they can import the rules to their own national fencing organizations, according to Lamour. But she noted that youth participation in the sport has definitely gone up.
    “We’ve got everything to gain,” she said. “It doesn't take anything away from participants in traditional fencing. It puts our discipline in the spotlight.”
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Comments • 830

  • Roy Xia
    Roy Xia 4 days ago

    are you allowed more than one light saber? and can u use any kind of lightsaber, or does it have to be the standard one?

  • Boom Glglgl
    Boom Glglgl 7 days ago

    Come on, eating frogs amd snails is also a thing in france...

  • toady
    toady 7 days ago

    Don't call it Lightsaber Fencing; call it Lightsaber _Kendo_ . . . but then they would get the same backlash from Japan.

  • rickydlp
    rickydlp 15 days ago

    Damn that dude is like a hip hop old head. Annoying as hell.

  • Ken Powers
    Ken Powers 21 day ago

    With regards to using the "Force," one must always be vigilante with over-exuberant nerds in anything. But having seen the karate kata competition, there could be a place for it in that type of format.

  • CoryZamparelli
    CoryZamparelli Month ago

    Does the FFA recognize HEMA (historical European Martial Arts) as fencing as well? Because as much as I'm happy about these guys getting recognized, if they say this is fencing but actual sword fighting from the 13th century on is not, I'm gonna be big mad.

  • Ulises de la luz
    Ulises de la luz Month ago

    I like Star Wars but he’s right, it’s ridiculous

  • Flippypoon The Grunt

    Usa take notes.

  • Yatzwolf
    Yatzwolf Month ago

    Ok sign me up

  • Megan Kropilak
    Megan Kropilak Month ago

    So I've been fencing since I was a kid according to this video lol

  • Ugo Eze
    Ugo Eze Month ago

    The hate is strong in this one

  • Jacob Zondag
    Jacob Zondag Month ago

    This is how you draw attention to a niche hobby in the 21st century! Fake as hell, but still funny.

    ERIC PURKAPILE Month ago

    Like the jedi the old man is against the winds of change.

  • Rawchiken
    Rawchiken Month ago

    Dont ruin fencing

  • Prince Blake
    Prince Blake Month ago

    Lol, update a sport that hasn't been relevant since the discovery of gunpowder.......but hey, whatever gets people off the couch

  • swanroadhotrods2
    swanroadhotrods2 Month ago

    its more like kendo than anything

  • Nergus Le Gugus
    Nergus Le Gugus Month ago +1

    I am French and the reason it's called "Saber Laser" is simply because this is the actual French translation from "Lightsaber". No copyright issues or else...
    In French we say "Sabre Laser"

  • Alfredo Valle
    Alfredo Valle Month ago

    Ils sonts deS clowns! They don't look like serious sportmen.

  • Bacon Western Beese Churger

    The real question is, do they just swing the sabers or actually use any of the seven forms

  • Allahisgay Mohammedthefalseprophet

    Ha ha light-fast fags

  • Jedi MGTOW en el Exilio

    Lightsaber fencing should be implemented in Spain.
    The Force is strong in lightsaber fencing.

  • Esteban Singh
    Esteban Singh Month ago

    It also seems ridiculous to combat with something that is more of a metal wire than a sword

  • Togafau
    Togafau Month ago +1

    Lol that guy in the red was a complete stereotypical French guy🤣 totally arrogant and not giving anything a chance or having an open mind to anything becuase of TRADITION.🙄

    He's probably dead now anyway so what does he know lmao.

  • Skywalker Alan
    Skywalker Alan Month ago

    Feel bad for those people, because Star Wars is no longer what it was anymore.

  • Armor Combat Systems

    I think this is a huge mistake. This will give those not familiar with the blade some very bad habits. Their is an old saying. "The dagger makes the new knife fighter lazy"

  • Joyce 花木
    Joyce 花木 Month ago

    It is a great way to get younger generations interested

  • Karū kun
    Karū kun Month ago

    You should master the high ground first

  • Henrique cabral
    Henrique cabral Month ago

    kinda looks like larping for me

  • Darling i'm blind
    Darling i'm blind Month ago

    This made me really want to get into traditional fencing lol

  • Kryn Sporry
    Kryn Sporry Month ago

    The fencing teacher obviously is a bit obstinate and has zero imagination. Having said that, I do agree that lightsaber duals are in fact not similar to fencing. They’re much closer to the Japanese art of Kendo.
    The force effects are a bit silly, but I guess it’s fun for participants.

  • SpicyReich
    SpicyReich Month ago +1

    That's ridiculously stupid. They are using toys and are pretending to have "the force". If they somehow used REAL lightsabers then that would be cool. But it's just a joke and not a sport.

  • colton boss
    colton boss Month ago

    They use ultrasabers btw

  • Dylan Gerig
    Dylan Gerig Month ago

    A couple years late, aren't they?

  • meroloco2
    meroloco2 Month ago +1

    It will be useful in the future when they invent a REAL lightsaber.

  • Random Man
    Random Man Month ago

    It’s more kenjutsu than fencing to me.

  • Laussard Regaudé
    Laussard Regaudé Month ago

    Of course, it had to be the french...

  • Jake Meyer
    Jake Meyer Month ago

    Let's be real. Lightsaber fencing today is more relevant than traditional fencing, even if it is on the ridiculous side. I was skeptical until the traditional instructor gave me the impression he's been using a saber as a chair instead of a weapon.

  • VogtTD
    VogtTD Month ago

    I'm sure it's been thing for a while. There are similar activities in the US. Why do ignorant journalists who know nothing about Fandom and subcultures always cover stories like this and act like they're discovering some crazy new thing?

  • AllTheWorldsWonders

    Excuse for adult LARPing

  • Josh Adams Music
    Josh Adams Music Month ago

    Omg sabre laser to avoid copyright XD as if, that's just the word for lightsaber in french

  • Khandar William
    Khandar William Month ago

    next: real burning lightsaber

  • Sean D.G
    Sean D.G Month ago

    *sees thumbnail* "damn, now they'll even surrender to Disney?" *watches video* Okay, who else was playing "Spot the Form" while watching this?

  • Steve Connor
    Steve Connor Month ago

    Eh, modern competitive foil, sabre, and even epee fencing have little to do with the deadly heritage of fencing.
    They’ve developed into their own thing, so much so that give two modern sport fencers sharps for a duel and the most likely outcome is they both end up dead.
    Lightsaber fencing is just another rule set for the fun game of tag with props that all sport fencing had become.
    And to be clear: there’s nothing wrong with sport fencing. It’s fun, challenging, and strenuous both physically and mentally. My point is that any objecting to lightsaber fencing on historical grounds can be also levelled at the other disciplines of sport fencing.

  • Hema-N
    Hema-N Month ago

    I am a historical fencer and I will confirm there are already plenty of exciting weapons aside from the epee, rapier, dagger etc shown in this video without going into the realms of fantasy. There are messers, longswords and even halberds! If you want to know how lightsabers would really be fenced with check out Shad's channel! He even shows how they should be used:

  • Mason Edusma
    Mason Edusma Month ago

    I'm all for a lightsaber fencing class but like at least base it off of something like I dunno traditional fencing maybe? The dude in the red shirt makes some good points but I think his ideas of tradition are kind of narrow minded, but that's just me what do i know I just wanna whack someone with a lightsaber lol

  • Heath Thompson
    Heath Thompson Month ago

    It's more like Kendo than Traditional fencing. I'd do it, but ya get rid of that force choke thing

  • The Bloody Point
    The Bloody Point Month ago

    Fun and interesting story, but some of the translations are incorrect. Surprising.

  • Asakura Takeshi
    Asakura Takeshi Month ago

    At least it’s easier to see the sword

  • MaxUniverse
    MaxUniverse Month ago

    try to take on the earth now than we have a jedi army!!!

  • JC Murzali
    JC Murzali Month ago

    Dark Vader approves

  • Betawarier the meme lord

    Looks more like Kendo

  • Cazzo1231
    Cazzo1231 Month ago

    I’d prefer hema

  • SlicerJen
    SlicerJen Month ago

    Old man is jelly

  • Brian Elkins
    Brian Elkins Month ago

    This is not and will never be fencing. It is choreography. It is play fighting. It is bull shit.

  • Jim Milton
    Jim Milton Month ago

    Elite larping

  • John smith
    John smith Month ago

    Polnareff is not impressed

  • Collin Butler
    Collin Butler Month ago

    Imagine this in the olympics

  • Erik Smoot
    Erik Smoot Month ago

    "It's a fencing club where I teach.... Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Fencing?"
    -Red shirt guy

  • Kody Kretchmer
    Kody Kretchmer Month ago

    This is a fucking joke right? Like is vice just the onion now?

  • Arthur Herbst
    Arthur Herbst Month ago

    Team HEMA? Anyone?

  • Nenad Dickov
    Nenad Dickov Month ago

    If there's ever a real conflict, I'm standing behind the super experienced, real weapon wielding old man. And no judgement just the Jedi will get massacred while trying to use the Force with their glowing dildos.

    WWSHD Month ago

    Make this an official listened sport, Disney. You own ESPN, you can make this happen

  • Penguin Saber Academy

    I have fenced Sabre for 14 years, Epee for 3 years, Foil for 1 Year. I have also been involved in Saber Martial Arts for 5 years in addition to fencing. The problem here, is that Lightsaber and Fencing are two completely different things. Lightsaber should not be classified as fencing, but instead each form of LS combat should be defined as a Martial Art. Light Saber has (technically) no templates since it is a completely fictional weapon so we have to draw upon real world influences and then adapt them to this fictional weapon. The problem with this is that in the real world, we don't have a weapon currently that has a 360 degree cutting edge that can chop a limb off with a gentle graze, so because of this the adaptations for LS combat vary between each group / school. Fencing on the other hand has a solid background in centuries of fighting, and the current rendition of the weapons are similar to their past counterparts, meaning you will get a consistent education across the board. Of course there are different flavors with each coach or club, but everyone will teach you off of the known and proven resources.
    Fencing and Lightsaber fighting are both very fun and I do not mean to shit on either. I will continue to do both till the day I die. It's just important to know that Fencing does NOT equal Lightsaber Fighting

  • Mntnmt
    Mntnmt Month ago +1

    imagine fencing in the future.
    combatants use lightsaber and wear glowing neon bodysuit like in tron legacy. its gonna be so cool

  • Joshua Carroll
    Joshua Carroll Month ago

    lol idiotic

  • Lukas Watts
    Lukas Watts Month ago

    Dude the red guy I like a villain

  • Unkwon Malaysian Guy

    If they used the force , will they get disqualified ?

  • watercat1302
    watercat1302 Month ago

    Count Dooku would be so proud...

  • Computer Insurgent
    Computer Insurgent Month ago +1

    As a traditional fencer, I agree with Francios Rostain. That lightsaber shit is not fencing. A normal fencer would defeat a lightsaber fencer with 15-0.

  • Lazar Zivkovic
    Lazar Zivkovic Month ago

    Why try to make this a dramatic scenario, there was no reason to add the pointless tension of having some old fart unimpressed by a new passtime